Official War With Iran Thread

[King Static X]

@CNN
JUST IN: The US will deploy thousands of additional troops to the Middle East as tensions with Iran mount following the airstrike that killed Qasem Soleimani, a US defense official tells CNN. US to deploy thousands of additional troops to Middle East following Soleimani killing - CNNPolitics

TrUmP iS a DoVe! tRuMp Is ThE pEaCe CaNdIdAtE!

 

[TheDarceKnight]

This isn’t going to escalate into a ground war

wish people would stop insinuating that

Iran poked the bear and the bear bit it’s head off

Iran will respond in a shadowy way and it’ll be tit for tat

but this ain’t some Franz Ferdinand level event and people who are acting like it is are fear mongering

Fair enough but I can understand people being scared about it.

It's never been this tense in the United States (at least not in my lifetime) and it's already been feeling like our country is in crisis mode. The prospect of another way is, I think, really scary and unappealing for most Americans.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Never thought I'd be cheering on Geraldo.

Geraldo is right like ... 22% of the time.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Iran's internal structure is far different than Iraqs. We don't need to nation build Iran. We don't need to appease 3 different warring factions like in Iraq. Iran is fairly solid from my understanding so the chaotic political arena that occurred in Iraq, won't occur in Iran. Lets not forget that part of the reason Iraq turned chaotic was that Iran was funding insurgency against both the US and the Iraqis.

IMO here's whats gonna happen. (Just my opinion).

Back in 2017 I talked with some friends in the Defense industry. They work for companies that supply war planes and missiles. Two diff people, two diff companies. Both said the same thing. We're gearing up for late 2019/early 2020. They said that weapons manufacturing, aka missiles, were being ramped up to levels they had never seen before, even during the Iraq war. This tells me we're gonna be dropping hammers on a LOT of Iranian military installations. Our war simulations clearly show us we have no chance for a ground invasion. I also don't think theres any support for that in the public or in the military. This will, IMO, strictly be dropping bombs on targeted sites to set their military and nuclear program back decades. The only chance for "ground" action is through their proxies in Syria, Yemen, or Lebanon. I'm of the opinion that Iranian proxies are spread extremely thin right now so any actions against the proxies will be swift and force them to draw back.

This is very informative. Thank you! Daps and rep.

 

[Inertia Creeps]

This isn’t going to escalate into a ground war

wish people would stop insinuating that

Iran poked the bear and the bear bit it’s head off

Iran will respond in a shadowy way and it’ll be tit for tat

but this ain’t some Franz Ferdinand level event and people who are acting like it is are fear mongering

IRAN isn't going to escalate this into a ground war... the United States and its Commander in Cheeto on the other hand, who authorized this reckless assassination without congressional authorization (with only Russian consultation beforehand...) in the first place... absolutely will escalate this war (that's already been going on in proxy form for years before today) depending on how severe and deadly Iran's inevitable, asymmetrical response to Soleimani's assassination plays out. Hell Trump would be jumping at the chance to put American boots on the ground in Iran before the weekend's over if it could hypothetically guarantee Bolton's refusal to ever testify to the senate for example...

People insinuated Trump would never be elected too, that even the possibility of Hillary losing to the guy from The Apprentice was "fear mongering", and that no US president would ever authorize an unprovoked assassination of Iran's most beloved general when even both Bushes didn't dare to... until Hillary DID lose, Trump DID get elected to the highest position of global authority, and DID use that authority to bomb that principally off-limits foreign general outta the sky at a civilian airport from his damn golf course yesterday at the drop of a hat. To characterize real, justified concerns over what more he can and absolutely will do next to further escalate the situation he ignited in the first place, if and when the fancy strikes his mentally ill head as "fear mongering" is ignorant and dangerous my man... apprehension, hand-waving, and denial over what Donald Trump and the US government he is at the head of may or may not do is a losing strategy at this point in world history. Tread lightly...

 

[DrBanneker]

Thats not really new information

Yeah but even if it is was true, bringing it up after the assassination as a post hoc rationalization doesn't smell right.The cause for all of this lies elsewhere and trying to make some big moral case for doing what we want to Iran is looking funny in the light. We had 18 years to move on this and the whole rationale for attacking Iran has been the nuke program. I mean seriously, it's like the Mullahs bringing up the airliner we shot down as an excuse to smuggle weapons to Shi'ite militias and Iraq.

If this was just a raw geopolitical decision, then just go with it. Let's not pretend this isn't part of a general stated goal, right or wrong, of isolating and toppling Iran's government.

 

[newarkhiphop]

@CNN
JUST IN: The US will deploy thousands of additional troops to the Middle East as tensions with Iran mount following the airstrike that killed Qasem Soleimani, a US defense official tells CNN. US to deploy thousands of additional troops to Middle East following Soleimani killing - CNNPolitics

Bbbbbbbbbbbut there iz not gon b3 no gr0und war

 

[SNG]

States looking funny outchea with making a hoe ass move like this.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You're overestimating Trump voters. They'll just blame Obama or someone else. You already see it on Twitter.

I don't think it locks him in for 2020, but wars typically help incumbent presidents and it's dangerous to assume he's automatically going to be an exception.

People already blame Obama for this for "being soft" on Iran and "giving billions" to terrorists. And has a president ever lost an election in the middle of a major war campaign ?

A. Trump supporters are irrelevant,he still needs moderates to win

B. There are even Trump supporters who don't want war

C. There's no evidence that starting random foreign wars helps presidents. The only comparisons are Iraq and Vietnam.

LBJ was looking terrible from Vietnam and Bobby Kennedy (rip) became much more popular running AGAINST the war. After Bobby got shot, Nixon beat Humphrey with Nixon running against the war. In 1972 Nixon won claiming he was successfully ending the war others had started.

Bush might have been helped by Iraq in 2004 but it was slight effect at most. By 2008 Iraq was a massive liability and Obama openly ran against it. Obama won again in 2012 bragging he had ended it and Trump in 2016 claiming he had always been against it and would get us out of other ward too.

 

[mastermind]

Isn’t she married to Chris Matthews?

Dinner with them must be fun.

You talking about Kathleen Matthews

 

[storyteller]

You’re conflating so many groups to be disingenuous about who “accelerationists” are but whatever.


Bernie Sanders HIMSELF stumped for Hillary, so idk wtf you’re even on about.

Imagine me saying all centrists wanted Iraq and Afghanistan to happen because Pelosi didn’t go after Bush for WMDs.
That’s what you’re doing right now. But literally worse because Bernie told people to vote for Hillary!

Yup, I had to neg him for that nonsense.

 

[Wargames]

@CNN
JUST IN: The US will deploy thousands of additional troops to the Middle East as tensions with Iran mount following the airstrike that killed Qasem Soleimani, a US defense official tells CNN. US to deploy thousands of additional troops to Middle East following Soleimani killing - CNNPolitics

[/QUOTE]

Sure fukking sounds like we are gearing up for a ground war

 

[achoo]

I just saw a tweet that Iran has discovered 53 billion barrels of crude. Forgive me I’m not sure how to post tweets

 

[achoo]

 

[88m3]

lol fukk that slow smiling fakkit