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really didn't enjoy this movie, couldn't believe the overwhelming positive critical reception on RT.

felt like it was aiming for the lowest common denominator. outside of the blue rock guy nobody else was all that funny to me. don't even know how this movie plays well to anyone that isn't under 14 years old.

if this is the direction marvel is going in... it's not a good look.
 

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Thor used a DUES EX MACHINA like a muthafukka. Hela was a better than average Marvel villain which isn't saying much. However, she was a one-dimensional cookie-cutter villain. The story in itself is razor-thin and relied heavily on slapstick type comedy so there's little set up on character. So, it was out of convenience as to how she was "beaten". They had a great opportunity of building a HUGE character arc with Hela showing her emotional toil of it has with her being the oldest sibling, how she's truly wants Asgard as a galactic empire and push it to where you understand her side and how she became the way she was. But they scrapped that and just said her and pops was evil conquerors and for some odd reason pops turned benevolent and caring and she said I want to stay evil and he banished her. One thing that worked WELL in the 1st Thor is the establishment of Loki and his rationale and reasoning to why he's who he is. This was hollow in Hela. You don't know anything deeper within that character and her motivations outside of what her powers rely on and that's that.

I disagree. We've seen, time and time again, that Odin is powerful as fukk but he's bad at being straight up with his family.

Odin pretty much used Hela, got Asgard all its wealth and power, made her feel special, and then erased her from Asgard's history because she was exactly the child that Odin raised.

You see how she's torn up at how the ancient Asgardian history is hidden, how they treated her like a blight, etc.

She's pretty much a mixture of Loki and Thor.
 

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Well I said they should've fukked up half of Asgard by themselves :skip:

For Hela to be the villain of the movie, Thor fought the Hulk damn near more than her.

It wouldn't even make sense for it. Hela was raised in an asgardian society that celebrated conquering and war. Thor isn't supposed to be a match for her. The entire point of the story is to highlight the faults of Odin's rule and to bring his bad decisions full circle in the form of Hela.

I liked Thor realizing that he can't outfight Hela
 

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I disagree. We've seen, time and time again, that Odin is powerful as fukk but he's bad at being straight up with his family.

Odin pretty much used Hela, got Asgard all its wealth and power, made her feel special, and then erased her from Asgard's history because she was exactly the child that Odin raised.

You see how she's torn up at how the ancient Asgardian history is hidden, how they treated her like a blight, etc.

She's pretty much a mixture of Loki and Thor.

Having a visual exposition about Odin concealing Asgardian history and addressing LACK the emotional and three dimensional character arc. This film was about ARMAGEDDON... a complete destruction of a planet while saving the people who were oppressed and now are refugees. And at it's core, it's about three siblings that all wanted their father's approval and each one were lied to. And none of that emotional conflict came into play. It's impossible to even CARE for these characters or those people and what happened. They could careless in story-building and character depth and prefer cheap laughs and sensationalism and spectacle.

The reason why most people deem WINTER SOLDIER the best Marvel film was because even though, the real antagonist was as one dimensional as Hela, the film surrounded itself in the depths between the relationships of Steve Rogers and Bucky as well as the political conflicts Rogers have with this so-called new world as well as SHIELD.
 

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It wouldn't even make sense for it. Hela was raised in an asgardian society that celebrated conquering and war. Thor isn't supposed to be a match for her. The entire point of the story is to highlight the faults of Odin's rule and to bring his bad decisions full circle in the form of Hela.

I liked Thor realizing that he can't outfight Hela

Pretty Much, I think that was the point. To show Thor's growth (as a potential king) and show the culmination/conclusion of Odin's rule as head of the Asgardians and the consequences of Odin's rule. That was the whole purpose of the scene in Norway. Even though he's the god of thunder, he's learned to outsmart, and move beyond brute force and aggression (as he was in the first thor film), in contrast to hela.

Having a visual exposition about Odin concealing Asgardian history and addressing LACK the emotional and three dimensional character arc. This film was about ARMAGEDDON... a complete destruction of a planet while saving the people who were oppressed and now are refugees. And at it's core, it's about three siblings that all wanted their father's approval and each one were lied to. And none of that emotional conflict came into play. It's impossible to even CARE for these characters or those people and what happened. They could careless in story-building and character depth and prefer cheap laughs and sensationalism and spectacle.

The reason why most people deem WINTER SOLDIER the best Marvel film was because even though, the real antagonist was as one dimensional as Hela, the film surrounded itself in the depths between the relationships of Steve Rogers and Bucky as well as the political conflicts Rogers have with this so-called new world as well as SHIELD.

I thought folks loved winter solder cause it was a gritty, grounded and fast paced action without all the jokes, folks don't really hype up ca tws beyond that. Alot of the potential great themes weren't really expounded on and cap was always critical and distrustful of shield/fury since avengers 1.

Civil War was actually a better representation of the internal dialog and conflict has with being an avenger and his choosing between his personal moral compass compared to his obligations to government/order/authority.

I agree with your critiques about hela, you could tell she was really dumbed down.
 

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Having a visual exposition about Odin concealing Asgardian history and addressing LACK the emotional and three dimensional character arc. This film was about ARMAGEDDON... a complete destruction of a planet while saving the people who were oppressed and now are refugees. And at it's core, it's about three siblings that all wanted their father's approval and each one were lied to. And none of that emotional conflict came into play. It's impossible to even CARE for these characters or those people and what happened. They could careless in story-building and character depth and prefer cheap laughs and sensationalism and spectacle.

The reason why most people deem WINTER SOLDIER the best Marvel film was because even though, the real antagonist was as one dimensional as Hela, the film surrounded itself in the depths between the relationships of Steve Rogers and Bucky as well as the political conflicts Rogers have with this so-called new world as well as SHIELD.

My friend I will warn you of this....

Becareful how you judge this cuz this may come full circle in a matter of hours.... no spoilers but this is "Pandora's box" territory

Martha
 

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The first hour or so in the movie felt like 2 different movies when they were going back between Hela and Thor. I didn't think it was anything special but better than his previous 2 movies. The jokes kill it for me, they're corny to me.... I pray they don't do Black Panther like this

7/10

Wow you ain’t like the jokes? Haven’t all marvel movies been the same type of humor tho? I’m not trying to imply anything but how is the jokes in this movie any cornier than the rest of the marvel movies GOTG included? How?
 
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