Official 'The Eternals' Thread

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it's funny how those fox xmen movies could get labeled trash out the gate, but if it's disney-marvel proper the stans create a human shield and refuse to let it be called trash b4 release (even though it looks like one of those trash fox releases)

X-Men movies were getting called trash because they were dropping bullshyt left and right and focusing on characters nobody gave a fukk about, like Mystique, solely due to the star power of the actress.

I mean....they ran the franchise into the ground so bad people got tired of seeing the core X-Men heroes and villains, for Christ's sake. If you would've told me that would happen back in the early 90's I would've thought you were nuts.

Fred.

 

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I never said he had deviant parents I said he was the product of Deviant and Eternal breeding. That's why he has the Deviant gene

Nope. Convergent evolution and/or Genetic Mutation. Right in that posted comic the doctor told A'lars said he would study why it happened.

If a deviant gene is (for example) a change in a single or even set of amino-acids from a related Eternal gene then that can happen by chance (much like how viruses evolve). This can happen because Eternals and Deviants have the same common ancestors (so have many of the same genetic starting positions). It can happen even without common ancestors (as in the multi-region theory of the origin of mine. Incorrect or not the idea is based on the fact that it is scientifically possible).

That's how evolution works. Deviant gene doesn't mean "got it from deviants". It means the same gene (constitution) as the one that makes Deviants look (etc) like they do is present. It does not mean that Thanos is a Deviant or even part Deviant anymore than wings mean an Ostrich and Bat have a direct evolutionary path. Or anymore than virus strain A and B having a common genome subset means that A and B both got it from a common ancestor or that either A or B got it from the other.

"Convergent evolution is the independent evolution of similar features in species of different periods or epochs in time. Convergent evolution creates analogous structures that have similar form or function but were not present in the last common ancestor of those groups. The cladistic term for the same phenomenon is homoplasy."
Convergent evolution - Wikipedia

Gene mutation is a random walk down a tree of mutation paths. Independant subsets of such a tree will have common factors that are not present in common forebears. As for example we see this with covid as discussed here The Coronavirus Variants Don’t Seem to Be Highly Variable So Far . Yeah geneticists use better nomenclature than Marvel for naming mutations than Marvel's use of "Deviant" but that is because one is contemporary 2020 science from qualified scientists and the other is 1960's science based fantasy from non-scientists.

That is not to say that there wasn't a deviant ancestor in Thanos bloodline but the evidence presented doesn't mean that there was.

 

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Nope. Convergent evolution and/or Genetic Mutation. Right in that posted comic the doctor told A'lars said he would study why it happened.

If a deviant gene is (for example) a change in a single or even set of amino-acids from a related Eternal gene then that can happen by chance (much like how viruses evolve). This can happen because Eternals and Deviants have the same common ancestors (so have many of the same genetic starting positions). It can happen even without common ancestors (as in the multi-region theory of the origin of mine. Incorrect or not the idea is based on the fact that it is scientifically possible).

That's how evolution works. Deviant gene doesn't mean "got it from deviants". It means the same gene (constitution) as the one that makes Deviants look (etc) like they do is present. It does not mean that Thanos is a Deviant or even part Deviant anymore than wings mean an Ostrich and Bat have a direct evolutionary path. Or anymore than virus strain A and B having a common genome subset means that A and B both got it from a common ancestor or that either A or B got it from the other.

"Convergent evolution is the independent evolution of similar features in species of different periods or epochs in time. Convergent evolution creates analogous structures that have similar form or function but were not present in the last common ancestor of those groups. The cladistic term for the same phenomenon is homoplasy."
Convergent evolution - Wikipedia

Gene mutation is a random walk down a tree of mutation paths. Independant subsets of such a tree will have common factors that are not present in common forebears. As for example we see this with covid as discussed here The Coronavirus Variants Don’t Seem to Be Highly Variable So Far . Yeah geneticists use better nomenclature than Marvel for naming mutations than Marvel's use of "Deviant" but that is because one is contemporary 2020 science from qualified scientists and the other is 1960's science based fantasy from non-scientists.

That is not to say that there wasn't a deviant ancestor in Thanos bloodline but the evidence presented doesn't mean that there was.

Deviants aren't mutated Eternals. Both are offshoots or mutates of humanity

Deviants were actually created first

History

Origin
During their First Host on Earth, one million years ago,[2] the Celestials collected the Wanderers,[6] a tribe of Homo erectus.[5]

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Gammenon the Gatherer collected the ape-men and send them to Ziran the Tester who mutated them to have an unstable genome, creating the Deviants[4] (Homo descendus),[1] a race with destabilized DNA expressing into various mutations, who were then released and went hiding in the caves. With other subjects, Nezarr the Calculator then created the Eternals[4] (Eternals (Homo immortalis)),[2] hairless, upright tall beings able to tap into the cosmic power. They were themselves released, flying out of the Celestials' laboratory-ship. Finally, Oneg the Prober created a latent gene for the expansion of human potential.[4]

 

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Yea there should’ve an AN there.
You used A with consonants and AN with vowels

don't know how to use 'AN' brehs

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'AN' should be used if the initial phonome of the following word sounds like a vowel (irrespective of whether it is in actuality a vowel or not).

for example:

The phrase "An R rated movie." is correct while "A R rated movie." is incorrect .

 

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Deviants aren't mutated Eternals. Both are offshoots or mutates of humanity

Deviants were actually created first

answer questions that no one is asking brehettes

why do you keep referring to things that I am not disputing as if that is somehow countering my point.

did you actually understand the science of what I wrote?

where did I state that Deviants were evolved from Eternals or vice-versa? I intentionally made my point independent of that because the order is not important for the question in hand.

why are you avoiding the main fact that your statement that "Thanos is part Deviant" is NOT supported by the evidence.

is that how #dogset gets down in these streets

 

[humminbird]

Does it matter?
we’ll find out in the movie

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

why are you avoiding the main fact that your statement that "Thanos is part Deviant" is NOT supported by the evidence.

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

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use edit-by-anyone wikipedia instead of official marvel.com brehettes

Thanos (The Mad Titan) In Comics Powers, History, Abilities | Marvel

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plus "hybrid" doesn't mean "forebears" (which is your claim remember) ... english language wise .. especially comics.

 

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hy·brid
/ˈhīˌbrid/
Learn to pronounce
See definitions in:
All
Biology
Linguistics
Motoring
Horticulture
noun

1. 1.
   BIOLOGY
   the offspring of two plants or animals of different species or varieties, such as a mule (a hybrid of a donkey and a horse).
   "a hybrid of wheat and rye"
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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   cross
   
   crossbreed
   
   mixed-breed
   mixture
   
   blend
   
   meld
   
   amalgam
   
   amalgamation
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   composite
   
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   "the final text is a hybrid of the stage play and the film"

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1. of mixed character; composed of mixed parts.
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hybrid doesn't mean "forebears".

you could hybridise a man and a cat using CRISPR but that doesn't mean that the man has a cat forebear.

just like pigs with human organs / sub genomes don't have human forebears.

see other post.

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

use edit-by-anyone wikipedia instead of official marvel.com brehettes

Thanos (The Mad Titan) In Comics Powers, History, Abilities | Marvel

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plus "hybrid" doesn't mean "forebears" (which is your claim remember) ... english language wise .. especially comics.

the comic panel you posted proved Thanos has a Deviant Gene. The only possible explanation for that is him having a Deviant Ancestor. Deviants aren't mutated offshoots of Eternals. The two races are cousins like a Tiger and a Lion. A Lion is not gonna produce an offspring with Tiger stripes unless it crossbreeds with a Tiger. A horse is not gonna give birth to a mule unless it crossbreeds with a donkey.

 

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Thanos was a product of Deviants and Eternals breeding. Thena is an Eternal who gets knocked up by the main villain Deviant named Kro and has twins. Maybe that's how it ties in. Everyone trying to prevent a Thanos 2.0

"Thanos is related by blood to Thena (who will be played by Angelina Jolie in the MCU), since she's Zuras' daughter; that means the two characters are actually first cousins. Despite this connection, Thanos has little to do with the Olympian Eternals, and has had limited interaction with them in the comics."

 

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The only possible explanation for that is him having a Deviant Ancestor.

nope. . c'mon now.

right there in the SAME MCU we have human Carol Danvers who is "Kree-Human hybrid" (their words) who has no Kree forebears.

have you been watching the MCU?

Captain Marvel (Danvers) has NO (ZERO ZILCH NONE NADA NIENTE KEINE) Kree ancestors BECAUSE there are other ways to exhibit genes from another species than being the descendent of one. I detailed two forms of evolution above where this is the case.

i know #dogset finds it hard to take L's but ... "the only way"....?

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

Carol Danvers who is "Kree-Human hybrid

your evidence "the comic panel" said Thanos was born with his Deviant gene


As a NASA security officer, Carol investigated numerous attempts made by the Kree and Skrulls to infiltrate Kennedy Space Center and disrupt America’s space program. During a battle between the heroic Mar-Vell and his rival, Yon-Rogg, Carol was exposed to the Psyche-Magnitron, a Kree device that could make imagination into reality. Carol subconsciously envied Mar-Vell’s powers, and the machine responded to those desires by rewriting her DNA to make her a human/Kree hybrid with abilities similar to his.

Carols powers came from reality warping and her making a wish

 

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