Official Succession Thread 🟠 Season 4 Currently Airing

[jericho]

Finally was able to watch this last night and then had to rewatch again this morning

They fukking nailed this finale and last season a whole. Every character stayed true and they didn't resort to sudden twists or gimmicks to try and create a viral moment. Just a masterclass of how to execute an ending on a top notch show

It sucks we won't get any new Succession but they ended that shyt perfect and went out on top

 

[FunkDoc1112]

This nikka

 

[re'up]

Their relationship was never ideal, I think Tom said something like "good to hear our love portfolio isn't unbalanced" so it was never some kind of sweeping romance, but it was real. They loved each other, but Shiv isn't capable of "love" the way one of us might define it, she loves like her Dad, for the most part, she's just more modern. Tom kind of almost unconditionally loved Shiv, remember how hurt he was

"you asked for an open marriage, on our wedding night"

Tom has so many funny quotes, may drop a list later

 

[pete clemenza]

Na, Tom loved her for real and still does.

It wasn't deep real love though. Peep everybody's scenario. Nobody truly loved anybody in this show. Logan and his kids, Logan and his ex wives. The four siblings didn't love each other, the siblings and their mom didn't like each other, Shiv & Tom, Kendall and his wife, Conner and his wife, etc. These folks had all the money in the world but nobody really gave a shyt about each other

 

[OsO]

Just finished the finale. First off just let me say I will never, ever feel sorry for billionaires, no matter how many L's they take.

Second, I can't believe Tom got chosen as the CEO. That seemed completely unrealistic for someone to trust him with that position. Dude is a walking-talking dumpster fire, always panicked and always plotting.

I was confused about the Shiv switch up at the end. I thought the reason was more along the lines of she was pregnant with Tom's baby and wanted to protect their "family" while also not giving into the brothers like she always has.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

What, Tom is good right now! Even if he ultimately gets canned by Mattson his severance package will be in the millions. Plus he can write a book on the whole Roy-Mattson-Waystar fiasco and land a new executive position with another company. And when or if its time to make a bad announcement to the press or fire somebody he'll get Greg to do it for him. Tom is the type to "once he gets his foot in the door, he'll take it from there" type. He's sitting extremely pretty tight now

I mean he’s good for what he wants. This has always been his MO. Like he said he’s a pain sponge and he’s always worrying. It’s gonna be more of the same for him but with the title he’s always wanted.

 

[pete clemenza]

I know it was all about how the kids weren't sh*t, spoiled, not competent, etc. But I think the biggest obstacle for them, especially Kendall, was that they weren't Logan -their father. Yeah they had their issues and Kendall was unsure about himself and a recovering drug addict, but low key dude was a business heavyweight in his own right. Logan was the massive ultimate titan badass in the media industry so naturally whoever was going to take over the company, family or not, would be deemed as inferior and not on par with Logan. Kendall and Roman knew their sh*t and could hold their own in board meetings, negotiations, new strategies, buyouts, etc. Plus trying to do the job with their father's long time ceo's and business partners who only believed in Logan didn't help one bit.

I believe this show is inspired by Rupert Murdock and his family who ran Fox TV and Fox News so Roy kids were indeed heavyweights in the game. Hell in this final season I just realized that they had a major movie studio under their wing on top of everything else This wasn't a couple of burger stands, this was a behemoth foundation of a company they were trying to control and keep in the family. The show focused on the kids L's and insecurities but they were far from bubbling idiots. Kendall looked silly at times like when he was trying to sell the retirement home concept to the share holders but again, that was his late father's ideal and business venture that he was trying to see through and make it a reality. If he could do his own thing, get rid of his father's old regime, and get some younger cutting edge minds around him, I can definitely see him taking Waystar-Royco into the future. IMO, It was just that their father's shadow and rep were just too big for them to follow and it crushed them

 

[EzekelRAGE]

It wasn't deep real love though. Peep everybody's scenario. Nobody truly loved anybody in this show. Logan and his kids, Logan and his ex wives. The four siblings didn't love each other, the siblings and their mom didn't like each other, Shiv & Tom, Kendall and his wife, Conner and his wife, etc. These folks had all the money in the world but nobody really gave a shyt about each other

Yea........it was deep love on Tom's end. Also the siblings did love each other. Connor has a different mom than the other 3 and those 3 loved their mom. Their mom told you how Logan loved. "He kicks the things he loves, to see if they will come back". A lot of the relationships we see are strained. I couldve swore kendall and his wife are separated or something like that. She cut him off in season 3 or 2 because he was spiraling or something.
You could also tell Rome and Shiv were extremely close.

They all cared about each other, they just didnt mind fukking over each other business wise because they were selfish.

The only sham/fake love relationship was Conner and his wife and they both know what it is.

Just finished the finale. First off just let me say I will never, ever feel sorry for billionaires, no matter how many L's they take.

Second, I can't believe Tom got chosen as the CEO. That seemed completely unrealistic for someone to trust him with that position. Dude is a walking-talking dumpster fire, always panicked and always plotting.

Tom is just as qualified for the position as any of the kids. He has hands on experience working within the company and under Logan for years. He led a whole division in Waystar. Publicly................when has Tom been showing to be panicking and unfit?

 

[pete clemenza]

Just finished the finale. First off just let me say I will never, ever feel sorry for billionaires, no matter how many L's they take.

Second, I can't believe Tom got chosen as the CEO. That seemed completely unrealistic for someone to trust him with that position. Dude is a walking-talking dumpster fire, always panicked and always plotting.

I was confused about the Shiv switch up at the end. I thought the reason was more along the lines of she was pregnant with Tom's baby and wanted to protect their "family" while also not giving into the brothers like she always has.

Shiv was talking & doing way too much, spewing out her own ideals for Waystar/Gojo, and wanted to be side by side with Mattson. That magazine cover illustration of Shiv controlling a goofy looking Mattson crushed his soul and it was a wrap on their partnership after that. Tom was already in place running ATN, he knows his sh*t tv wise, and was down to play ball for whatever Mattson needed even take on any type of heat that would come about if they had to downsize and their subscriber numbers were fugazi in South Asia. Mattson also said he needed an American as the face so there was no outrage because Waystar/Royco was a longtime American institution of a business. It might change later but Tom was the perfect choice for what Mattson needed after the deal was closed

 

[WIA20XX]

For those that didn't know - James Murdoch, (Rupert's son aka Kendall) started/backed/owned/whatever Rawkus Records

Rawkus Records - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Company Flow
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Reflection Eternal

etc

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I believe this show is inspired by Rupert Murdock and his family who ran Fox TV and Fox News so Roy kids were indeed heavyweights in the game.

That's because it is loosely based on Murdock. That's been a thing since the show was announced

 

[EzekelRAGE]

For those that didn't know - James Murdoch, (Rupert's son aka Kendall) started/backed/owned/whatever Rawkus Records

Rawkus Records - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Company Flow
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Reflection Eternal

etc

That sorta explains Kendall rapping at his party and bumping stuff like Takeover, was a nod to this

 

[WIA20XX]

That sorta explains Kendall rapping at this party and bumping stuff like Takeover, was a nod to this

I'm surprised a lot more hip hop heads didn't pick up on this, but not everyone was built for Pumas and Jansports...

 

[mastermind]

Plus they didn't love each other anyways. They had an open marriage. Tom marrying Shiv was simply a business move for him to get in with the Roy's and make the next move from there.

Exactly. Tom even asked Shiv to take the Roy name in s1 and she hit him with the

Imma disagree

Tom deeply loves Shiv and has from the jump. He is a social climber and saw her as a way up, but he worshiped her until she told him he didn’t love him.

He used to look out for her deeply until that day and he been out for himself since.

 

[DrunkenNovice]

Was it out in the open that Kendall’s kids weren’t his?

I don’t remember that being covered or alluded to before