I donāt think Tom ever cares about power though. It was always about money and the security that comes with it for him. I think he would have been good running ATN. The CEO shyt just fell on his lap and he ran with it.
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fukk shiv.
Tres Leches
Empire Business
Ken so damn inconsistent like Tatum in the playoffs
I called it , they both went out the same way
Good finale, what a great show 
The kitchen scene was dope, it showed what the siblings could be if they could find a way to leave all the pain and hurt aside
Team Kendall hold ya L's
Tom's servile nature helped him win, what a come up
Tom now owns Shiv in every way, she will never be able to undermine him again
Bu bu bu Greg is gonna be CEO
That bloodline comment about Ken's kids rocked him to the core
Rome cracking allowed him to see the truth about himself and the siblings
Logan told no lies
The kitchen scene was dope, it showed what the siblings could be if they could find a way to leave all the pain and hurt aside
Team Kendall hold ya L's
Tom's servile nature helped him win, what a come up
Tom now owns Shiv in every way, she will never be able to undermine him again
Bu bu bu Greg is gonna be CEO
That bloodline comment about Ken's kids rocked him to the core
Rome cracking allowed him to see the truth about himself and the siblings
Logan told no lies
Mr Hate Coffee
Veteran
Being a āpain spongeā for a psycho like Mattson who is also plotting on your wife doesnāt seem like all itās cracked up to be. I think thatās one of the underlying messages of this show. Everyone was fighting for this position (CEO) but itās really a miserable place to be
These fools can't take it
they always think there is a plot within the plot, the show clearly showed the winners and losers
Could be
But thatās not #Loganset problem we sold its done kids with the Roy last name wonāt be fukking it up we ended on a high note
#Loganset
Tom didn't come from real wealth and had true street/finesse sense.... Dude was the snake that was gone find a way regardless to make it...
He knew Greg was a weak version of him and felt pity.
All the Roy kids were weak cause they silver spoon kids..
Tom and Gerri were my favorite characters
Although Tom American accent horrible.
He knew Greg was a weak version of him and felt pity.
All the Roy kids were weak cause they silver spoon kids..
Tom and Gerri were my favorite characters
Although Tom American accent horrible.
Marc Spector
the 4'11 Cuban
after having some time to think about it I realized that the big theme of season four and the finale was the Roys and the viewers coming to terms with their upbringing and realizing that privilege covered up a lot.
Loganās death starts this journey that the Roy siblings go on. The common reflection all four siblings have is there misguided and complicated love their father.
Individually however, they each uncover a different side of themselves in relation to their father.
Connor comes to grips with the fact he he was the afterthought to his father and rest of the family (but arguably had the best relationship with Logan as it was simple enough to remain cordial).
Shiv realizes that being the girl of the family means she was never fully taken seriously (and we as the viewers know that she develops a superiority complex as she frames her self as held back by her gender).
through grieving, Roman learns his self loathing is deeper than even he knew and that his father represented a lifeline to him. With Logan gone Roman is struggling to figure out his identity and what he should be doing in life.
Ironically, the series is mostly concerned with Kendall and his relationship with Logan. But post Loganās death, Kendall is the least impacted of the Roy siblings. What we think we know about him doesnāt really change until the last episode.
for the main three siblings these mind states inform where they wind up at the finale of the series.
shiv betrays Kendall not just because she detest him and did not want to see him win. she betrays him because finding out that Tom was picked (who she labeled as an empty suit and always saw as inferior to her) cause her to question her and her siblings worldview. It finally occurred to her that maybe she wasnāt the held back, put upon, secret talent of the family . Made her realize that Kendall may have been the most qualified of the Roy siblings , but what if being a Roy isnāt some great benefit?
when Kendall relays that the entire impetus of his desire to be CEO was due to a promise that Logan made when Kendall was seven, this weakens his argument even more and further reinforces Shivs theory that maybe they have been wrong the whole time.
romans line of we are bullshyt also ties into this paradigm shift and result in him becoming liberated from the trauma and pressure of his family.
shiv and Tomās last seen in the car is uncomfortable because itās Shiv realizing that in order for her and Tomās relationship to work from now on she is going to have to become comfortable with the idea that she is no longer superior to Tom both in her own mind and in societal standing it will be a very very tough adjustment. But itās what Tom wanted the entire time.
in some ways being denied CEO saves Kendall. he may have desired it more than anyone but he was always unqualified. once we as the viewer realize that he never let go of his childish dream, we understand that Kendall never really developed the intelligence or adaptability of being a CEO he just was persistent because he felt fully entitled to the role.
Lastly I think it Has to be noted that Armstrong doesnāt think highly of capitalism or business culture at all. The entire show is a satire and takedown of hyper capitalism and very much goes on to point out how evil mega corporations who can sway entire elections are. We as the viewer may want to see our favorite characters get their desires but I think the point is that the prize is inherently flawed in the first place.
Look at the lows that Kendall went to try and secure the CEO title, he went against everything he said made him different than Logan. Logan was content being a great evil and forcing his will on the world. if succession does have a lesson on what makes a good CEO itās either being extremely ruthless to the point of evil or being a spineless suit that is only there to take orders. Ken was neither and thatās why heās not CEO.
Loganās death starts this journey that the Roy siblings go on. The common reflection all four siblings have is there misguided and complicated love their father.
Individually however, they each uncover a different side of themselves in relation to their father.
Connor comes to grips with the fact he he was the afterthought to his father and rest of the family (but arguably had the best relationship with Logan as it was simple enough to remain cordial).
Shiv realizes that being the girl of the family means she was never fully taken seriously (and we as the viewers know that she develops a superiority complex as she frames her self as held back by her gender).
through grieving, Roman learns his self loathing is deeper than even he knew and that his father represented a lifeline to him. With Logan gone Roman is struggling to figure out his identity and what he should be doing in life.
Ironically, the series is mostly concerned with Kendall and his relationship with Logan. But post Loganās death, Kendall is the least impacted of the Roy siblings. What we think we know about him doesnāt really change until the last episode.
for the main three siblings these mind states inform where they wind up at the finale of the series.
shiv betrays Kendall not just because she detest him and did not want to see him win. she betrays him because finding out that Tom was picked (who she labeled as an empty suit and always saw as inferior to her) cause her to question her and her siblings worldview. It finally occurred to her that maybe she wasnāt the held back, put upon, secret talent of the family . Made her realize that Kendall may have been the most qualified of the Roy siblings , but what if being a Roy isnāt some great benefit?
when Kendall relays that the entire impetus of his desire to be CEO was due to a promise that Logan made when Kendall was seven, this weakens his argument even more and further reinforces Shivs theory that maybe they have been wrong the whole time.
romans line of we are bullshyt also ties into this paradigm shift and result in him becoming liberated from the trauma and pressure of his family.
shiv and Tomās last seen in the car is uncomfortable because itās Shiv realizing that in order for her and Tomās relationship to work from now on she is going to have to become comfortable with the idea that she is no longer superior to Tom both in her own mind and in societal standing it will be a very very tough adjustment. But itās what Tom wanted the entire time.
in some ways being denied CEO saves Kendall. he may have desired it more than anyone but he was always unqualified. once we as the viewer realize that he never let go of his childish dream, we understand that Kendall never really developed the intelligence or adaptability of being a CEO he just was persistent because he felt fully entitled to the role.
Lastly I think it Has to be noted that Armstrong doesnāt think highly of capitalism or business culture at all. The entire show is a satire and takedown of hyper capitalism and very much goes on to point out how evil mega corporations who can sway entire elections are. We as the viewer may want to see our favorite characters get their desires but I think the point is that the prize is inherently flawed in the first place.
Look at the lows that Kendall went to try and secure the CEO title, he went against everything he said made him different than Logan. Logan was content being a great evil and forcing his will on the world. if succession does have a lesson on what makes a good CEO itās either being extremely ruthless to the point of evil or being a spineless suit that is only there to take orders. Ken was neither and thatās why heās not CEO.
No company
No wife
No biological children
No rap career
Does Kendall have anything that is truly his own and that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after?
No wife
No biological children
No rap career
Does Kendall have anything that is truly his own and that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after?
voltronblack
Superstar
A fukk ton of money he can use to start is own company if he want toNo company
No wife
No biological children
No rap career
Does Kendall have anything that is truly his own and that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after?
Kendall is a sociopath. Not surprised at all. My point was she knew she wasnāt going to vote for him. Went through the rigamarole and happy times with her brothers the night before to still go through with her initial vote.She has more power/sway with Tom.
Are all yall ignoring the fact that Kendall said he told them he didnt kill the waiter as a ploy? That straight up destroyed everything imo. That was one of their biggest bonding moments......and Kendall said it was a ploy. Even if Shiv flipped, Rome would change his vote after that. That proved to them how manipulative Kendall was or that he is still in denial about it.
A fukk ton of money he can use to start is own company if he want to
That's what we doing now huh? inventing imaginary spin off show's
