Official SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING Thread

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first I figured they shoulda stuck with their original idea of bringing back Topher Da God but I still love Spider-Mans movies :lawd:

Huh? I must've missed anyone was seriously considering bring back sad sack tobey
 
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Sneak peek: Michael Keaton a flying fiend as everyman 'Spider-Man' villain

“My whole approach for this movie is that we’ve seen the penthouse level of the (Marvel) universe,” says director Jon Watts (Cop Car). “We’ve seen what it’s like to be a billionaire inventor and to be a Norse god. We’ve seen the very top of this world. But we’ve never seen what it’s like to be just a regular joe.”

Fourteen previous Marvel films have seen a number of huge superhero battles leave a ton of destruction in their wake, and Adrian Toomes (Keaton) is a blue-collar sort who runs a New York salvaging company that cleans up after these messes. However, he becomes irked when after one altercation, a new government organization, founded by A-list businessman Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.), steps in to take over.

oomes “has a bone to pick” with Iron Man’s high-profile alter ego, says co-producer Eric Hauserman Carroll, and "sort of becomes the dark Tony Stark": He and his crew — including the Shocker (Bokeem Woodbine) and the Tinkerer (Michael Chernus) — use scavenged alien artifacts and stolen advanced tech to put together amazing weaponry to sell to other criminals. "He thinks once he has this money and power, he'll have more control of his life," Carroll adds. However, it doesn’t take too long before they get on the radar of their friendly neighborhood Spider-Man (Tom Holland).

“Some people see themselves as victims — he sees himself a little bit like that,” Keaton says of Toomes. “He probably would have a strong argument that he never got a fair shot — a lot of ‘Why not me? Where’s mine?’ ”


Watts found inspiration for Vulture’s “ground-level perspective” in John C. Reilly’s supporting character in Guardians of the Galaxy who's a normal guy who gets caught up in a cosmic life-or-death situation.

“I like the idea that in these huge movies, you pick out one extra and you’re like, ‘What does he think of all this?’ ” Watts says. “Sometimes these movies are so casual about just destroying whole cities and incredible things happen and everyone’s like, ‘Eh, whatever.’ If that really happened, it would be amazing and change everything.”

Plus, with his new baddie Watts gets to use "this neat junk from all the other movies," he says. "It’s a really great starting point for the villains to have the Vulture picking over the stuff and finding the valuable exotic elements and having the Tinkerer assemble into something that could be used.”

The Marvel Cinematic Universe is a place “where you can be a villain and a real person, too,” Watts says. “Being a supervillain isn’t necessarily your full-time job.”

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I'm reallllly hoping they get vulture right with keaton, pretty much the only reason why I'm interested in this.

EDIT: and Bokeem as shocker:banderas:
 

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Sneak peek: Michael Keaton a flying fiend as everyman 'Spider-Man' villain

“My whole approach for this movie is that we’ve seen the penthouse level of the (Marvel) universe,” says director Jon Watts (Cop Car). “We’ve seen what it’s like to be a billionaire inventor and to be a Norse god. We’ve seen the very top of this world. But we’ve never seen what it’s like to be just a regular joe.”

Fourteen previous Marvel films have seen a number of huge superhero battles leave a ton of destruction in their wake, and Adrian Toomes (Keaton) is a blue-collar sort who runs a New York salvaging company that cleans up after these messes. However, he becomes irked when after one altercation, a new government organization, founded by A-list businessman Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.), steps in to take over.

oomes “has a bone to pick” with Iron Man’s high-profile alter ego, says co-producer Eric Hauserman Carroll, and "sort of becomes the dark Tony Stark": He and his crew — including the Shocker (Bokeem Woodbine) and the Tinkerer (Michael Chernus) — use scavenged alien artifacts and stolen advanced tech to put together amazing weaponry to sell to other criminals. "He thinks once he has this money and power, he'll have more control of his life," Carroll adds. However, it doesn’t take too long before they get on the radar of their friendly neighborhood Spider-Man (Tom Holland).

“Some people see themselves as victims — he sees himself a little bit like that,” Keaton says of Toomes. “He probably would have a strong argument that he never got a fair shot — a lot of ‘Why not me? Where’s mine?’ ”


Watts found inspiration for Vulture’s “ground-level perspective” in John C. Reilly’s supporting character in Guardians of the Galaxy who's a normal guy who gets caught up in a cosmic life-or-death situation.

“I like the idea that in these huge movies, you pick out one extra and you’re like, ‘What does he think of all this?’ ” Watts says. “Sometimes these movies are so casual about just destroying whole cities and incredible things happen and everyone’s like, ‘Eh, whatever.’ If that really happened, it would be amazing and change everything.”

Plus, with his new baddie Watts gets to use "this neat junk from all the other movies," he says. "It’s a really great starting point for the villains to have the Vulture picking over the stuff and finding the valuable exotic elements and having the Tinkerer assemble into something that could be used.”

The Marvel Cinematic Universe is a place “where you can be a villain and a real person, too,” Watts says. “Being a supervillain isn’t necessarily your full-time job.”

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Looking forward to this, I just hope they stay true to character this time.
 

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His characterization has been back and forth depending on the writer. So I don't know if there's a "right" way to do him for real. He's not like Norman
Fair enough, but I think sticking to something familiar to audience will be for the best.
 

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Fair enough, but I think sticking to something familiar to audience will be for the best.

The audience knows him as a cranky old man who's foolish tho. Most people probably know Toomes from the cartoon and he wasn't vicious at all. He was a joke

You know him from the comics so you're in the minority. Most cats on here had to be convinced he'd make a good villain and only when Keaton got the role were they convinced
 

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The audience knows him as a cranky old man who's foolish tho. Most people probably know Toomes from the cartoon and he wasn't vicious at all. He was a joke

You know him from the comics so you're in the minority. Most cats on here had to be convinced he'd make a good villain and only when Keaton got the role were they convinced
Yup that's what I'm getting at. But I think they might go with the cartoon version. Comics might be too deep for the beginning of a new franchise.
 

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Yup that's what I'm getting at. But I think they might go with the cartoon version. Comics might be too deep for the beginning of a new franchise.

Nah I think when you cast Keaton you don't get him to be a withering old man. You get him to bring some intensity and menace to it. And going from that USA Today article that's what he's trying to do.
 

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Yeah Vulture & Shocker were unholy bums in the cartoons :francis:

Shocker and vulture in spec spidey were dope. Vulture less son but better than he was in the 90s cartoon. Shocker was straight jobber status in that cartoon tho:russ:

Spec made him better by simply making him smarter. Fancy Dan as the shocker was a brilliant move.
 

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Shocker and vulture in spec spidey were dope. Vulture less son but better than he was in the 90s cartoon. Shocker was straight jobber status in that cartoon tho:russ:

Spec made him better by simply making him smarter. Fancy Dan as the shocker was a brilliant move.

Shocker was so trash in the 90s version. This dude shocked himself & got knocked out trying to hit Peter. :mjlol:
 
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