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Yea you are right. The key is definitely about big features and being on big projects. Metro has a huge following. Actually a Metro/Hit Boy produced Nas album would probably go crazyyy. Add some big features to it :ohhh:
I have no experience in the music industry even I know this that chick is clueless. The bottom-line Nas does what he wants, he doesn't operate like a dude chasing hits. Son knows his legacy is cemented icon in hip hop. Nas fans aren't suddenly going to become Nikki or Beyonce fans hosting stream parties spending all day trying to get shyt trending :childplease:
 

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25 she's expecting us to be like Beyonce fans or some shyt:what:. Nas on Spotify has been at steady 10.3 to 10.4 million followers, that song with Metro jumped to 10.8 in not even a day. Do features that matter R-means are cool, but it's obvious what features get the streams up he hasn't done them. Again, I'm not believing that Nas is so called disgruntled about the sales he doesn't move like he does. She also said labels might not see the interest with a K-Dot or Cole Nas collab so there's no push for it I'm calling BS on that. Since she keeps bringing up the other guy his top 10 currently on Spotify 6 Ye on 1 his wife 1 A keys 1 Rihanna only 1 song is a solo:childplease:

Yep that's a thing jay understood early early. jumping on hot artist of the moment song and doing a remix. Think about it, he's on lupe's, kendrick's, drake's and j cole's first album. the fact that he didn't collab with them while they're all 10 plus years in the game now is weird. Jay did watch the throne at a time when kanye clearly didn't needed him on it, but he was smart enough to ride the wave. wayne and drake understood that too. only eminem can afford to do big numbers on streaming platforms without the collabs because his fan base is similar to the beyonce's, rihanna's, bunch of obsessed fans who don't listen to much else and who cares more about pushin the artist business and image than the actual quality of music

Nas did everything right if the goal was to solidify his legacy and cultural importance. But if you want to play the numbers game but don't want to fully play the game proper, don't blame it on the customer then.
 

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Yep that's a thing jay understood early early. jumping on hot artist of the moment song and doing a remix. Think about it, he's on lupe's, kendrick's, drake's and j cole's first album. the fact that he didn't collab with them while they're all 10 plus years in the game now is weird. Jay did watch the throne at a time when kanye clearly didn't needed him on it, but he was smart enough to ride the wave. wayne and drake understood that too. only eminem can afford to do big numbers on streaming platforms without the collabs because his fan base is similar to the beyonce's, rihanna's, bunch of obsessed fans who don't listen to much else and who cares more about pushin the artist business and image than the actual quality of music

Nas did everything right if the goal was to solidify his legacy and cultural importance. But if you want to play the numbers game but don't want to fully play the game proper, don't blame it on the customer then.
Don't forgot he was getting placements on those Def Jam Nutty Professor & Rush Hour soundtrack Ain't No nikka &Can I Get A. Those movies were huge at the time. Cole helped get Benny his first gold plaque does this chick really think Nas & Cole collab for his album wouldn't move the needle?:mjlol:
 
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Don't forgot he was getting placements on those Def Jam Nutty Professor & Rush Hour soundtrack Ain't No nikka &Can I Get A. Those movies were huge at the time. Cole helped get Benny his first gold plaque does this chick really think Nas & Cole collab for his album wouldn't move the needle?:mjlol:

Nas did a lot of soundtracks too back in the day. Zebrahead, Street Fighter, In Too Deep, Belly, Men In Black, Exit Wounds, 8 Mile, etc.

I’m glad soundtracks seem to be making a bit of a comeback on the Hip Hop side of things in the past few years. The Spiderman soundtrack is doing some great numbers and I hope that encourages them to shoot some videos.

If Nas hops on other soundtracks for the summer that could count as his “feature” run. Imagine videos for On My Soul (Transformers) Nas Morales (Spiderman) and 1 or two other blockbusters all with videos. Would be EXCELLENT marketing and hype for when he drops KD4.


But then again he looks like he’s gearing up to have a bust summer with the Hip Hop At 50 stuff
 
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What are some illmatic era, pre-IWW nasty Nas unreleased jawns?

Nas Will prevail
Life’s a dive game
Represent OG
Deja vu

I know I’m forgetting plenty
 

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If Nas just swapped his features out on KD1 there’s easily platinum singles right on that. Put Drake instead of Big Sean. Put Cardi B on Spicy. Have her do the hook. Put Jigga on 27 Summers. shyt he could’ve even put Kendrick on Rare from KD2. The whole sales trajectory of his shyt would’ve been completely different.
 

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Nas did a lot of soundtracks too back in the day. Zebrahead, Street Fighter, In Too Deep, Belly, Men In Black, Exit Wounds, 8 Mile, etc.

I’m glad soundtracks seem to be making a bit of a comeback on the Hip Hop side of things in the past few years. The Spiderman soundtrack is doing some great numbers and I hope that encourages them to shoot some videos.

If Nas hops on other soundtracks for the summer that could count as his “feature” run. Imagine videos for On My Soul (Transformers) Nas Morales (Spiderman) and 1 or two other blockbusters all with videos. Would be EXCELLENT marketing and hype for when he drops KD4.


But then again he looks like he’s gearing up to have a bust summer with the Hip Hop At 50 stuff

Being on a soundtrack movie is one thing but it's another thing when the track is actually played on the movie and the video clip for the song actually got clips of the film.
 
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Being on a soundtrack movie is one thing but it's another thing when the track is actually played on the movie and the video clip for the song actually got clips of the film.

True I THINK On My Soul is actually in the movie Transformers we’ll see

Nas Morales should have been the end credits song for Spiderman
 

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Talked about Nas international fanbase vs North America

Said Nas and Mass Appeal are HUGE in India and that if North American fans treated Nas like he’s treated in India he’d be so rich he’d probably retire (She said it as a joke)

Talked a lot about sales and insinuated that Nas hopping on Soundtracks is an attempt to reach younger fans because the Core fanbase isn’t doing enough

I asked her if Nas is supposedly not doing so well with these algorithms why are so many artists and companies still clamoring to work with him. She basically said that Mass Appeal is more of a media/entertainment company and not just a label and the fact that Mass Appeal does business with every major company we can think of Nas will always be front and center because he’s the face of the company. She also said Nas has friends in high places that love him and like being associated with him so Nas will never have a problem getting placements.

Said Nas is most popular in India, Africa, Australia, and The UK. She said Nas is willing to do more special stuff for the fans overseas like meet & greets and special song performances because he’s more appreciated and the fans are extremely respectful.

She said Nas team was dismayed by the sales reception for KD3. Said Nas will go back to working with other artists but he thought the fans would support and be appreciative he held down an entire album dolo.

I pointed out that Nas is the only rapper besides Jay-Z to have 15 top ten debuting albums and does that signify support and consistency? She basically said the albums need legs and that international support is what makes the albums turn a profit.

She spent some time trying to educate us on how sales and streams work and how bigger artists fans do this and that and Nas fans aren’t really up on streaming. She basically said that Billboard will “bend the rules” when it comes to counting bundles towards sales for artists like Taylor Swift and Travis Scott but Nas wouldn’t get that same treatment.

She mentioned Nas gets a lot of internet support but that doesn’t translate to sales

She said Nas DOES sell a shytload of merch and she’s trying to get more bundles and merch packages poppin. She said Nas fans “Show Out” for Merch

She confirmed KD3 was mostly recorded while he was on tour with the Wu. Said it might be the most expensive of the KD albums because Nas had to fly Hit Boy out several times both in America and overseas

She basically confirmed a new album is coming. She said the team is trying to strategize how to best reach fans. She specifically said interviews and being on the Breakfast club doesn’t move the needle
It's gonna be a hot summer
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:banderas: woke up with distant relatives in my head this morning.

Count Your Blessings
Leaders
Friends

:ahh: on the way to work this morning
Blastin this (it's been a minute) right now, and the synergy between Nas & Damian was so palpable:whew:

...Despair was a Tool use to Enslave Man:ohlawd:

Distant Relatives:boss: is an unheralded masterpiece for our culture:wow:
 
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Blasting this (it's been a minute) right now, and the synergy between Nas&Damian was so palpable:whew:

...Despair was a Tool use to Enslave Man:ohlawd:

Distant Relatives:boss: is a masterpiece that was was a ahead of times::wow:


Damian Marley is underrated as a producer. Him and his brother laced the fukk out of those beats.

Matter of fact I think Damian belongs in the top 5 for Nas producers alongside Premier & Hit Boy
 

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Talked about Nas international fanbase vs North America

Said Nas and Mass Appeal are HUGE in India and that if North American fans treated Nas like he’s treated in India he’d be so rich he’d probably retire (She said it as a joke)

Talked a lot about sales and insinuated that Nas hopping on Soundtracks is an attempt to reach younger fans because the Core fanbase isn’t doing enough

I asked her if Nas is supposedly not doing so well with these algorithms why are so many artists and companies still clamoring to work with him. She basically said that Mass Appeal is more of a media/entertainment company and not just a label and the fact that Mass Appeal does business with every major company we can think of Nas will always be front and center because he’s the face of the company. She also said Nas has friends in high places that love him and like being associated with him so Nas will never have a problem getting placements.

Said Nas is most popular in India, Africa, Australia, and The UK. She said Nas is willing to do more special stuff for the fans overseas like meet & greets and special song performances because he’s more appreciated and the fans are extremely respectful.

She said Nas team was dismayed by the sales reception for KD3. Said Nas will go back to working with other artists but he thought the fans would support and be appreciative he held down an entire album dolo.

I pointed out that Nas is the only rapper besides Jay-Z to have 15 top ten debuting albums and does that signify support and consistency? She basically said the albums need legs and that international support is what makes the albums turn a profit.

She spent some time trying to educate us on how sales and streams work and how bigger artists fans do this and that and Nas fans aren’t really up on streaming. She basically said that Billboard will “bend the rules” when it comes to counting bundles towards sales for artists like Taylor Swift and Travis Scott but Nas wouldn’t get that same treatment.

She mentioned Nas gets a lot of internet support but that doesn’t translate to sales

She said Nas DOES sell a shytload of merch and she’s trying to get more bundles and merch packages poppin. She said Nas fans “Show Out” for Merch

She confirmed KD3 was mostly recorded while he was on tour with the Wu. Said it might be the most expensive of the KD albums because Nas had to fly Hit Boy out several times both in America and overseas

She basically confirmed a new album is coming. She said the team is trying to strategize how to best reach fans. She specifically said interviews and being on the Breakfast club doesn’t move the needle

Billboard stopped counting bundles towards album sales after Nicki Minaj's last album fukkery....in 2018. Has nothing to do with Nas being singled out. Billboard recently revised the rule and as of last month has started counting bundles again. So all the recent Nas albums came at a time when bundles were not being counted. To make her claims sound even dumber, I'm pretty sure Nas didn't have any Kings Disease tours announced for any of those albums. The entire point of the bundles was to put your tour on sale shortly before an album release, and anyone who bought tickets would count as an album sale in the first week. So she's complaining about something that his team didn't even attempt to do.

I simply refuse to believe Nas is delusional about sales and expects big numbers in 2021-2023, especially given the complete lack of promo on at least two of the albums (Magic, KD3). And I refuse to believe that the big "appeal to young/new fans" move Nas decided on was doing some soundtrack songs instead of, you know, getting big young artists on his albums to increase sales. Kodak has been saying he wants to work with Nas, Drake has tried to get a Nas verse, Kendrick shares the same manager as Nas, SZA is a Nas fan, Cole apologized to Nas and presumably wants to work with him again, Tyler is a big Nas fan, Schoolboy Q said Nas is his favorite rapper, etc. Lot of people WANT to work with him.

It's not that "Nas fans aren't up on streaming" either, it's that older artists/legacy artist fans aren't up on streaming. Older fans prefer to just buy an album and they aren't using Spotify. Which is why whenever an old rock, pop, metal, etc band drops a new album you see the physical sales are way higher than the streams whereas it's the opposite for younger artists. I also never see legacy acts complaining about album sales.

Anyone think Dave gives a shyt? I don't lol. That band will do what they always do: tour and make a killing. Which is also what Nas is doing, and why I seriously doubt he's sitting around on the road crying about sales. This is her, not Nas' sentiment.
 
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