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1). Nas is 100% right. Steve Stoute said the same thing regarding when he and Nas started working together. nikkas wanted Nas to stay on some ā€œYour favorite rapperā€™s favorite rapperā€ shyt and never make any real money and he had to convince Nas that he was a star.

2). Nas invoking Biggie lends credence to Questloveā€™s story about Nas losing to Big at The Source awards really changing his perspective about the industry.
1- Scarf Hands deserves all the props for that. He had the vision and was proven right. I clearly remember girls becoming Nas Stans overnight on the strength of If I Ruled The World (girls bought records, guys bought the bootlegs).

2- A Hips Called Quest has said many times on his podcast that he was sitting on the same row as Nas and when Biggie ran the table that night Quest saw Nas's soul leave his body on some "I can't believe this shyt." Said his facial expression and mood turned sour when Biggie got Lyricist of the Year. (I was hoping the Wu series would cover this and why Nas became so tight with them. They shared a common enemy lol).

Scarf Hands did for Nas what Puff did for Biggie
 
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1- Scarf Hands deserves all the props for that. He had the vision and was proven right. I clearly remember girls becoming Nas Stans overnight on the strength of If I Ruled The World (girls bought records, guys bought the bootlegs).

2- A Hips Called Quest has said many times on his podcast that he was sitting on the same row as Nas and when Biggie ran the table that night Quest saw Nas's soul leave his body on some "I can't believe this shyt." Said his facial expression and mood turned sour when Biggie got Lyricist of the Year. (I was hoping the Wu series would cover this and why Nas became so tight with them. They shared a common enemy lol).

Scarf Hands did for Nas what Puff did for Biggie


I donā€™t think Nas saw Biggie as his enemy. They were still cool after all of that its just EVERYBODY on that building, including Big knew Nas deserved lyricist of the year. nikka got FIVE MICS in the Source but then that same entity turns around and gives an album that got half a mic less lyricist of the year? Hell Nas really deserved AOTY if weā€™re going by The Sourceā€™s own standards.

Nas said it himself on Last Real nikka Alive that both Wu and Biggie were his friends, but at the end of the day it was STILL competitive rivalry.
 

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I donā€™t think Nas saw Biggie as his enemy. They were still cool after all of that its just EVERYBODY on that building, including Big knew Nas deserved lyricist of the year. nikka got FIVE MICS in the Source but then that same entity turns around and gives an album that got half a mic less lyricist of the year? Hell Nas really deserved AOTY if weā€™re going by The Sourceā€™s own standards.

Nas said it himself on Last Real nikka Alive that both Wu and Biggie were his friends, but at the end of the day it was STILL competitive rivalry.
You're right, maybe enemy is too strong a word. I meant in that competitive MC sense.
Also in hindsight, 95 was when Biggie became "BIGGIE." He had the underground and the charts on lock. Loved by everyone from hardcore heads to commercial casuals. Nas wasn't there yet.
So The Sauce being a commercial entity went with the one who had a higher media profile IMO.
The fukkery from that award show changed Hip Hop forever. It's not a reach to say that the drama that started that night was a contributing factor in both Pac and Big's murders.
 

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You're right, maybe enemy is too strong a word. I meant in that competitive MC sense.
Also in hindsight, 95 was when Biggie became "BIGGIE." He had the underground and the charts on lock. Loved by everyone from hardcore heads to commercial casuals. Nas wasn't there yet.
So The Sauce being a commercial entity went with the one who had a higher media profile IMO.
The fukkery from that award show changed Hip Hop forever. It's not a reach to say that the drama that started that night was a contributing factor in both Pac and Big's murders.

By 95 Biggie definitely wasn't loved by the underground and hardcore hiphop heads. I'd say it was the exact opposite.
 

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Yooooo....wtf, FLETCH from that 2006 Nas Rebel to America/Escobar Theory blog just replied me




I guess he's in sacramento and is a movie buff


for anyone who has a reddit account go talk to him.... @JustCKing @Big Mark

we gotta PM the admin and invite him to thecoli to see if can hang out over here

I casted a wide ass net on youtube posting obscure nas videos to congregate all the nas fans onto the reddit and we finally found him

i'm sure people here would have random ass questions to ask Fletch about long lost/forgotten Nas rumors/songs that he covered briefly in his blogs but we can probably expand and figure out the missing pieces, etc
 
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Yooooo....wtf, FLTECH from that 2006 Nas Rebel to America/Escobar Theory blog just replied me




I guess he's in sacramento and is a movie buff


for anyone who has a reddit account go talk to him.... @JustCKing @Big Mark

we gotta PM the admin and invite him to thecoli to see if can hang out over here

I casted a wide ass net on youtube posting obscure nas videos to congregate all the nas fans onto the reddit and we finally found him

i'm sure people here would have random ass questions to ask Fletch about long lost/forgotten Nas rumors/songs that he covered briefly in his blogs but we can probably expand and figure out the missing pieces, etc


Shoutout to the homie Fletch.
 

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By 95 Biggie definitely wasn't loved by the underground and hardcore hiphop heads. I'd say it was the exact opposite.

Yeah I remember being at a record store in the mall in nyc and dudes were making fun of the song get money when it was on

There was a line in the sand from fans of BCC, Jeru the roots etc and the mainstream like Biggie
 

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I remember listening to hot97 in HS. They had a Battle of the Beats between Sunshine and City is Mine. Winner becomes his next single. I think City is Mine won. I didnā€™t like Sunshine but i liked Babyface a lot and gave it points for that.
 

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I remember Clark Kent saying Nas and Big weren't on speaking terms at points in 1996 and 1997. Walked past each other in a hotel hallway without saying a word to each other. In terms of the Source thing, I'd imagine anyone losing like that would feel some type of way. Biggie was that dude, had the bigger machine and had radio on lock. Most NY rappers wanted a piece of that, it wasn't just Nas.

I also firmly believe that if Biggie had lived, Life After Death would have received some vocal hate from "real hip hop" purists. The hard records on there are undeniable but there's plenty shyt on there that went faaaar more mainstream than anything Nas did on IWW.
 

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By 95 Biggie definitely wasn't loved by the underground and hardcore hiphop heads. I'd say it was the exact opposite.
I don't know where you were but in South Florida the heads were bumping Who Shot Ya and the broads were dancing to One More Chance
 
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