Official Moon Knight Season 1 Thread

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Stellarium Astronomy Software

This one can go back at least 45000 years BC. Researchers use programs like that all the time to correlate how ancient structures were aligned with astronomical features in the night sky at the time & calculating for precession of the stars to the time those cultures existed.

It was a dark and stormy night!

Turn the damn sky Khonshu!!!!

 

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Stellarium Astronomy Software

This one can go back at least 45000 years BC. Researchers use programs like that all the time to correlate how ancient structures were aligned with astronomical features in the night sky at the time & calculating for precession of the stars to the time those cultures existed.

"When viewing space from Earth, the attenuation, interstellar dust and stars in the plane of the Milky Way (the galactic plane) obstruct the view of around 20% of the extragalactic sky at visible wavelengths. As a result, optical galaxy catalogues are usually incomplete close to the galactic plane."
Zone of Avoidance - Wikipedia

e.g.

"However, it is inconveniently obscured by our own Milky Way's galactic plane, lying behind the Zone of Avoidance (ZOA), so that, in visible light wavelengths, the Great Attractor is difficult to observe directly.[1] In fact, it will not be for another hundred million years that Earth will be on the other side of the Milky Way galaxy, allowing us to see past the galactic plane.:"
Great Attractor - Wikipedia

 

[BuddahMAC]

"When viewing space from Earth, the attenuation, interstellar dust and stars in the plane of the Milky Way (the galactic plane) obstruct the view of around 20% of the extragalactic sky at visible wavelengths. As a result, optical galaxy catalogues are usually incomplete close to the galactic plane."
Zone of Avoidance - Wikipedia

e.g.

"However, it is inconveniently obscured by our own Milky Way's galactic plane, lying behind the Zone of Avoidance (ZOA), so that, in visible light wavelengths, the Great Attractor is difficult to observe directly.[1] In fact, it will not be for another hundred million years that Earth will be on the other side of the Milky Way galaxy, allowing us to see past the galactic plane.:"
Great Attractor - Wikipedia

While there may be stars no longer visible now to be mapped to past positions, most stars are still known & visible across this span of time (ie constellations existing & matching from the ancient to modern day) and, just saying before Khonshu defies the Gods, remixes the heavens old school and gets relegated to museum shelf status, they might have given a look to an easily accessible simulated Cairo night sky on that date to see how it matches up to get the location.

Then again, they've shown Khonshu as pretty impulsive so needlessly fukking himself over might just be in character.

 

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While there may be stars no longer visible now to be mapped to past positions, most stars are still known & visible across this span of time (ie constellations existing & matching from the ancient to modern day) and, just saying before Khonshu defies the Gods, remixes the heavens old school and gets relegated to museum shelf status, they might have given a look to an easily accessible simulated Cairo night sky on that date to see how it matches up to get the location.

Then again, they've shown Khonshu as pretty impulsive so needlessly fukking himself over might just be in character.

20+% e-grow is a lot. Massive things like the Great Attractor is a big deal. Seeing it could change our understanding of the entire cosmos. It could change our understand of celestial body movement.

 

[BuddahMAC]

20+% e-grow is a lot. Massive things like the Great Attractor is a big deal. Seeing it could change our understanding of the entire cosmos. It could change our understand of celestial body movement.

But, as I said, the majority of the stars, including Egyptian constellations that would be used for positioning on a map, are still visible & known:

The “emblem constellations” indicate that the ancient Egyptians possessed early representations of many of the classical constellations known to the Greeks, such as Leo ; Scorpius ; Aquila, the eagle ; the water-bearer, Aquarius ; Taurus ; Orion ; the dog of Canis Major

http://sino-platonic.org/complete/spp253_ancient_egyptian_constellations.pdf

The ancient Egyptians had a wide range of constellations, which populated the skies of ancient Egypt (see Chap. 133, “Orientation of Egyptian Temples: An Overview”) for more than three millennia, whose knowledge has come to us through lists of stars and other representations which have mainly appeared in a dozen of coffins, a few clepsydrae, and a good set of astronomical ceilings. Hence, by making very simple assumptions and using the information provided by the ancient Egyptian sky-watchers, it is possible to uncover a great part of the ancient Egyptian firmament. This celestial tapestry was populated by the images of animals, symbols, and divinities that were most significant in understanding the Egyptian interpretation of the cosmos.

Egyptian Constellations

And can be recreated:

Scholars have long believed that the star charts represented a very early type of clock, for telling time at night, which might be important for certain religious rituals. But Sarah Symons of McMaster University in Ontario thinks it more likely that the tables represent a kind of map for the dead to properly navigate the sky, where they would live forevermore as stars. Her conclusions are based on years of research into ancient Egyptian beliefs, extensive surveys of the 27 known star tables or fragments of tables in the world and, using planetarium software, the ability to easily recreate the nighttime sky as it appeared more than 4000-odd years ago along the Nile. Symons and co-author Elizabeth Tasker of Hokkaido University in Japan describe the work in the October issue of Scientific American.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/decoding-the-star-charts-of-ancient-egypt/

And all I'm saying is they could have checked any of this to match their map before knowingly incurring the wrath of the HR department of the Gods.

 

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But, as I said, the majority of the stars, including Egyptian constellations that would be used for positioning on a map, are still visible & known:


http://sino-platonic.org/complete/spp253_ancient_egyptian_constellations.pdf


Egyptian Constellations

And can be recreated:


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/decoding-the-star-charts-of-ancient-egypt/

And all I'm saying is they could have checked any of this to match their map before knowingly incurring the wrath of the HR department of the Gods.

that's not "any of these" that is just one point.

also the set of stars "detectable" from earth 4000 years ago is not the same as the set detectable now.

as the sky shifts (i.e. we move around the galaxy) some phenomena slip behind the galactic plane and others are newly revealed.

also phenomena (inc. stars) recede out of view ..

what part of this do you not agree with?

 

[BuddahMAC]

that's not "any of these" that is just one point.

also the set of stars "detectable" from earth 4000 years ago is not the same as the set detectable now.

as the sky shifts (i.e. we move around the galaxy) some phenomena slip behind the galactic plane and others are newly revealed.

also phenomena (inc. stars) recede out of view ..

what part of this do you not agree with?

Your willful obstinance. I was just pointing out the logical fallacy in the show and have shown numerous times how they can simulate ancient night skies and how they've already matched Egyptian star maps (like in the show)/constellations to their modern counterparts w/o the sky turntablism. You continue to repeat yourself and not acknowledge it. There's no need to derail the thread further then. Topic dropped.

 

[chico25]

Your willful obstinance. I was just pointing out the logical fallacy in the show and have shown numerous times how they can simulate ancient night skies and how they've already matched Egyptian star maps (like in the show)/constellations to their modern counterparts w/o the sky turntablism. You continue to repeat yourself and not acknowledge it. There's no need to derail the thread further then. Topic dropped.

The characters clearly weren't aware of the tech since Layla didn't know about the star drift and Steven didn't bring it up as an option. They also don't know exactly how long ago they would need to look back. It would have taken time for them to use software to find the exact constellation that matched their chart especially with gaps in the data. They are chasing down someone that already has the exact location and needs to be stopped quickly. You are trying to create a plot hole that doesn't exist by nitpicking that certain technology exists.

 

[rantanamo]

I have tried,but this show is trash. Why are the Gods trash on here. Tired of the changing personalities in the middle stuff. Its not funny. Lady episode was ridiculous. Maybe I'm in a bad mood,but I'm surprised that I just don't like this. Looks cool, but annoying

 

[LordDeathwatch]

The characters clearly weren't aware of the tech since Layla didn't know about the star drift and Steven didn't bring it up as an option. They also don't know exactly how long ago they would need to look back. It would have taken time for them to use software to find the exact constellation that matched their chart especially with gaps in the data. They are chasing down someone that already has the exact location and needs to be stopped quickly. You are trying to create a plot hole that doesn't exist by nitpicking that certain technology exists.

To make something so simple complex is mind boggling.

 

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Your willful obstinance.

You continue to repeat yourself and not acknowledge it. There's no need to derail the thread further then. Topic dropped.

sure i acknowledged it.
i am just saying khonshu's memory > computer mapping

 

[WhatsGoodTy]

This shyt fire

 

[EnzoG]

They said that something special is in this episode...anyone speculating on what it could be??

 

[TheNatureBoy]

Just watched ep 4

 

[Conz]

getting interesting... but man, this show was basically a non-starter for me and i don't think it's ever gonna really improve much b/c bumbling British Steven is probably my least favorite MCU lead to date. everyone is sucking Oscar Isaac's dikk for playing mulitple roles, but i ... kinda hate that one?

also love watching moon knight and

Spoiler

not seeing moon knight