Official Michael Jordan 'The Last Dance' Doc Thread (NO SPOILERS)

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Paying Pip and Phil (again for Phil) would be eating into Reinsdorf's pockets. He could have stopped it all, but prior to the last 2 seasons Mike was only getting 3 mill a year from a long deal he signed in '88. Having to pay Phil at least 6 again and Pip probably 10x what he was making wasn't gonna ride for Reinsdorf and the other minority owners of the Bulls. Krausse getting all the blame when Reinsdorf was just being cheap.
Reinsdolf is a cheap clown. He's the reason why the Bulls franchise is trash today. He just hit on Michael Jordan and Jerry Krause in the 80's. Krause in the 90's was completely suspect tho. The one thing I like about Krause was like me, he was a Baseball guy. We Baseball guys know team structure better than Basketball guys. He always knew what he had in Jordan and luckily was always having a top 10 pick every year so talent was available at his disposal.

At the end of the day, I don't think Krause was that good. Guys like Masai would run circles around him.
 

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Reinsdolf is a cheap clown. He's the reason why the Bulls franchise is trash today. He just hit on Michael Jordan and Jerry Krause in the 80's. Krause in the 90's was completely suspect tho.

He wasn't even the majority owner when they hit with Mike in the draft. He didn't have majority ownership until '85.

Krausse does get A LOT of the blame, but in the end Reinsdorf signs the checks and has the final say. Same way he overrode Krause on signing Phil to one more year.
 

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Yeah, but nobody is gonna pay good money to hear Ahmad's stories.

That wasn't my point.

Someone on Twitter said Ahmad was a great friend for not exposing any wild MJ stories.....My point is that Ahmad has his own skeletons..That's why I used the phrase..."Glass Houses"
 

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I find it remarkable that dudes find a fault in Black people, particularly those who grew up in households with fam who had Jackie, Russell, Kareem, Ali to not have expectations that speaking just a little was part and parcel of the Black athlete experience. So many fake ass “dOnT eXPeCt aThLeTES tO sPeAk” clowns seem really good at tearing down black collective thought as something repugnant it weak.

Y’all are an embarrassment
 

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I think all of MIkes gambling was just a by product of his competitive nature. It’s like playing a free game of Texas hold ‘em instead of playing for money. Gives you an incentive to compete.
 

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Disappointed in Jordan’s stance on the Gantt/Helms situation.

Really enjoyed the episodes last night. Gonna run 6 back cause I was distracted while it was on. Surprised they got as deep as they did on his gambling addiction even though they framed it as a competitive issue.
 

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I'm sure we all know somebody who is Good as Hell at their Job...But you don't know them personally..

They could be a Terrible Mother/Father..Husband/Wife... but that doesn't change how they perform at work..

I see Mike the same way... His personal life has nothing to do with that he did inside those lines..

I fck with a lot of the stuff LeBron does Socially.. But that doesn't make him better than Mike on The Court..
 

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I find it remarkable that dudes find a fault in Black people, particularly those who grew up in households with fam who had Jackie, Russell, Kareem, Ali to not have expectations that speaking just a little was part and parcel of the Black athlete experience. So many fake ass “dOnT eXPeCt aThLeTES tO sPeAk” clowns seem really good at tearing down black collective thought as something repugnant it weak.

Y’all are an embarrassment
I don't find this to be true. I do believe most of these posters care for their athletes being pro-Black and speaking up for our causes. The Kaep shyt proved it as well. I just believe when it's someone they care for as much as Mike, they makeup excuses and want to look the other way. We seen Kobe stans do this during BLM. We seen Kanye stans do this for a long time till Trump where they just couldn't defend him anymore. I am a believer that we all have these expectations and I've seen us share it on this site for years but when the person is Michael Jordan. I see guys who normally aren't scared to put the feet to the fire of c00ns get really scared to do it with Jordan. As I've said in the past, MJ is the image most of us BM wanted to achieve at some point in our lives.
 

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I'm sure we all know somebody who is Good as Hell at their Job...But you don't know them personally..

They could be a Terrible Mother/Father..Husband/Wife... but that doesn't change how they perform at work..

I see Mike the same way... His personal life has nothing to do with that he did inside those lines..

I fck with a lot of the stuff LeBron does Socially.. But that doesn't make him better than Mike on The Court..
I respect this opinion a lot more than just excusing Jordan altogether for his c00nery and buffoonery which many do here. Even if you think MJ is the best player or not, you can't overlook the obvious.
 

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I think all of MIkes gambling was just a by product of his competitive nature. It’s like playing a free game of Texas hold ‘em instead of playing for money. Gives you an incentive to compete.

yeah that will perdue ish sums it up
playing games for a dollar and jordan wanted to join in

gambling with security guards :heh:
 
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