Official MCU Black Panther 2 Thread

[hjnm]

There’s definitely other actors who can do just as good of a job as T’Challa.

Chadwick was good for the role but he shouldn’t be the end all be all for a character that has existed before he was even born.

Yeah I don't believe there aren't a lineup of actors who won't do the job if offer.

 

[Rekkapryde]

you joke but as Kang gets more and more relevant watch when twitter and articles start questioning why he didn't get rid of slavery and call him a c00n for it

Militant/Hotep twitter is the worst.

 

[Peter Popoff]

, anything else and all this juelzing and calling us c00ns because we don't wanna support an #alllivesmatter #feministagenda movement, ya'll and @Rhakim can get the fukk on somewhere. A movie about the first black Superhero in Africa being converted to feminist and include Mexican heritage and gays I will not support. A solo Hispanic or a female or any ethnic, sexuality Superhero movie, however, I fully support. I don't like that Gina Rodriguez shyt y'all spewing. I already got one annoying little clown fukker on ignore that negs me for being pro-black and not including his culture in everything I say when I told that fakkit, I have Puerto Rican cousins.

 

[Copy Ninja]

Seen the trailer, looks dope to me.

Also I understand why MCU didn't want to recast T'Challa out of respect for Boseman (which is ironic now because Boseman's own family now want MCU to recast the character). MCU seems like they're doing things differently though. Like if Helmsworth dies, I really think they would write it in their story as well that his version of Thor is also dead and they'll find a different character to play the role of Thor in their universe. I think it goes for any of the major characters in the MCU tbh.

People keep bringing up other comic characters produced by Fox, Warner Brothers, etc, but those movie studios operate significantly different than the MCU where they don't really give a fukk about continuity. shyt, we all know Bruce Wayne will be recasted in about 5 years again.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Honest to god, do you think if something happened to RDJ after Avengers or Chris Evans after Winter Soldier they would have put the character on ice? It would probably all work out since more people are fans of Black Panther the movie than Black Panther the character but basically Disney canceled a movie they had planned to let Coogler and the cast make a 2 hour tribute to Chadwick.

Honest to God, I think it would depend on what they had planned for the character arc and how it fit in the other movies and how they thought their fanbase would react. Do you seriously think that anything other than profit is the driving factor behind their decisions?

The most ridiculous shyt to me in all this is coli militants putting all this weight onto Black Panther to carry the full movement of Afrocentrism and Black masculinity for them while simultaneously thinking its creators and makers are a bunch of sexist racists who hate Black men. Like, if you really believe that Marvel is on that, then why the fukk are you supporting them in the first place? Marvel is a comic book company run by a bunch of white and jewish men. These are the same people that let directors and actors go wild groping any woman they wanted and y'all seriously think they have a feminist agenda? Their agenda is making money and they will produce the product they think will do that. Every time give a Black person like Coogler creative power I'm gonna be happy about it, but beyond that I'm not gonna try to make it more than it is.

, anything else and all this juelzing and calling us c00ns because we don't wanna support an #alllivesmatter #feministagenda movement, ya'll and @Rhakim can get the fukk on somewhere. A movie about the first black Superhero in Africa being converted to feminist and include Mexican heritage and gays I will not support.

There's so much goofiness in this sentence I think it just stands on its own.

 

[Peter Popoff]

Honest to God, I think it would depend on what they had planned for the character arc and how it fit in the other movies and how they thought their fanbase would react. Do you seriously think that anything other than profit is the driving factor behind their decisions?

The most ridiculous shyt to me in all this is coli militants putting all this weight onto Black Panther to carry the full movement of Afrocentrism and Black masculinity for them while simultaneously thinking its creators and makers are a bunch of sexist racists who hate Black men. Like, if you really believe that Marvel is on that, then why the fukk are you supporting them in the first place? Marvel is a comic book company run by a bunch of white and jewish men. These are the same people that let directors and actors go wild groping any woman they wanted and y'all seriously think they have a feminist agenda? Their agenda is making money and they will produce the product they think will do that. Every time give a Black person like Coogler creative power I'm gonna be happy about it, but beyond that I'm not gonna try to make it more than it is.






There's so much goofiness in this sentence I think it just stands on its own.

No there's not bytch.

 

[nieman]

Statements like this just show ignorance. Tom Holland has been the MCU Spiderman since the beginning. The other two played him in completely different series that aren't part of this universe. There was zero continuity - each time they started over from the beginning with a different director and the entire cast was different. Is that what you wanted to do here?

If they had just recast, then do you recast all the roles and start over? Can't do that or you lose continuity with the rest of the MCU.

So do you recast T'Challa and have him play Chadwick Boseman's version of the character? That would be stilted as hell, asking another actor to interpret the character exactly how the previous actor did it is a recipe for a shytty performance. It also would be distracting cause instead of paying attention to the movie, all the attention would just be on how well he did or did not match Chadwick's interpretation.

So do you have him put his own interpretation on the character, but pretend to be playing the same T'Challa? That makes all the relationships and plot lines awkward, and would still result in the same distracting comparisons, maybe even worse. Plus it completely glosses over Chadwick's death and takes away the entire tribute aspect.

The only way to do it is to acknowledge that the previous T'Challa died and find a way to eventually introduce a new T'Challa, either by having his son rise up or by stealing a T'Challa from the multiverse or somehow have him return from the spiritual plane a changed being. And likely they WILL do that, they're just gonna take their time and be respectful to Chadwick by celebrating and mourning him with this movie first.



The amount of anger and emotion that is expressed over fukking trailers on this site blows my mind. It's pretty much just The Coli and alt-right sites that get this fukking upset over every single Black movie that ever gets made before they've even seen it. You were probably one of the 100 people here who were shytting on Get Out and calling it corny and lame based on the trailer too.

They recast characters in movies all of the time. There were 4 different Bruce Wayne/Batmans in the same universe. There are 2 different Hulks, War Machine, Red Skull, like 3 different Howard Starks. Prof X & Magneto were played by 2 different actors in the same movie. Nolan's Batman turned Katie Holmes into Maggie Gyllenhaal. AND Jake was going to replace Tobey Maguire when he got hurt and was having back problems. He had already started the training for it. Mortal Kombat replaced everyone damn near for Annihilation. If it was anyone else, the role would've been recast. Hell Brandon Lee died on set, movie was a hit, and the role was recast for City of Angels.

If you don't make it an issue, the audience won't care. I just find it absurd that some people believe that the role can only be played by one person.

Let's say they said we'll use a "multiverse" character. That creates more problems. First, they have barely even used it. Everyone in this multiverse flick (Dr Strange) was played by the same actor. Hell, even Spidey can be dismissed due to being different ages....but JJJ was still played by the same actor. But the bring in a new actor to be "T'Challa" but he's from another universe. How does that T'Challa fit into Wakanda? The characters already established will care about him? Nope. Not Nakia, not Shuri, not Okoye, not Wakanda.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Seen the trailer, looks dope to me.

Also I understand why MCU didn't want to recast T'Challa out of respect for Boseman (which is ironic now because Boseman's own family now want MCU to recast the character). MCU seems like they're doing things differently though. Like if Helmsworth dies, I really think they would write it in their story as well that his version of Thor is also dead and they'll find a different character to play the role of Thor in their universe. I think it goes for any of the major characters in the MCU tbh.

People keep bringing up other comic characters produced by Fox, Warner Brothers, etc, but those movie studios operate significantly different than the MCU where they don't really give a fukk about continuity. shyt, we all know Bruce Wayne will be recasted in about 5 years again.

you cant compare this situation to anything. Hemsworth has a decade plus in role lol. I dont even think Chadwick has a full 2 hours of screen time.

 

[Apollo Creed]

They recast characters in movies all of the time. There were 4 different Bruce Wayne/Batmans in the same universe. There are 2 different Hulks, War Machine, Red Skull, like 3 different Howard Starks. Prof X & Magneto were played by 2 different actors in the same movie. Nolan's Batman turned Katie Holmes into Maggie Gyllenhaal. AND Jake was going to replace Tobey Maguire when he got hurt and was having back problems. He had already started the training for it. Mortal Kombat replaced everyone damn near for Annihilation. If it was anyone else, the role would've been recast. Hell Brandon Lee died on set, movie was a hit, and the role was recast for City of Angels.

If you don't make it an issue, the audience won't care. I just find it absurd that some people believe that the role can only be played by one person.

Let's say they said we'll use a "multiverse" character. That creates more problems. First, they have barely even used it. Everyone in this multiverse flick (Dr Strange) was played by the same actor. Hell, even Spidey can be dismissed due to being different ages....but JJJ was still played by the same actor. But the bring in a new actor to be "T'Challa" but he's from another universe. How does that T'Challa fit into Wakanda? The characters already established will care about him? Nope. Not Nakia, not Shuri, not Okoye, not Wakanda.

man place that dumb ass nikka on ignore so he can go back to the TLR shythole.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

No there's not bytch.

1. I didn't call anyone a c00n.

2. I didn't say anyone had to support Black Panther if they don't want to.

3. No fukking clue what "#alllivesmatter" has to do with this

4. I have no issue with Black women being at the forefront of a superhero movie for just once in history, that doesn't make the movie any more "feminist agenda" than that one movie that already had a female warrior clan and a teenage girl supergenius in major roles.

5. I have no problem with the bad guy being Mexican or with Wakanda going to war with a different culture. Would you have preferred the bad guy be a sadistic ultraviolent Black man in an ape costume, like it was in the comics?


Does that cover all the goofiness or did I miss some?

 

[Waterproof]

Who in the fukk said he was 20 years old, where the fukk y'all come up with this off the wall bullshyt

 

[Professor Emeritus]

They recast characters in movies all of the time. There were 4 different Bruce Wayne/Batmans in the same universe. There are 2 different Hulks, War Machine, Red Skull, like 3 different Howard Starks. Prof X & Magneto were played by 2 different actors in the same movie. Nolan's Batman turned Katie Holmes into Maggie Gyllenhaal. AND Jake was going to replace Tobey Maguire when he got hurt and was having back problems. He had already started the training for it. Mortal Kombat replaced everyone damn near for Annihilation. If it was anyone else, the role would've been recast. Hell Brandon Lee died on set, movie was a hit, and the role was recast for City of Angels.

This response suggests you didn't read what I wrote at all. How does anything you wrote have to do with anything I said? I never once said that they don't recast actors.

If you don't make it an issue, the audience won't care. I just find it absurd that some people believe that the role can only be played by one person.

I haven't said that the role can only be played by one person. I said that in this situation, with the way the public took Chadwick's performance and then Chadwick's death, a recasting without in-movie explanation would have been a distraction and would have overshadowed the entire movie.

I still think they're going to recast it and that's what I wanted them to do from the beginning. I just see why they didn't want to do that in the context of this movie. I'm also on record in this thread a year ago saying that I don't like the idea of Shuri as BP, even temporarily, and would have preferred it to be Nakia if anyone (sadly there wasn't a single man in the entire first flick who was positioned to take the role), but on the other hand Shuri is the one who takes it in Marvel lore and that holds weight with certain people.

Let's say they said we'll use a "multiverse" character. That creates more problems. First, they have barely even used it. Everyone in this multiverse flick (Dr Strange) was played by the same actor. Hell, even Spidey can be dismissed due to being different ages....but JJJ was still played by the same actor. But the bring in a new actor to be "T'Challa" but he's from another universe. How does that T'Challa fit into Wakanda? The characters already established will care about him? Nope. Not Nakia, not Shuri, not Okoye, not Wakanda.

The entire question is fascinating and if they use it then it remains to be seen how it will happen. We've already seen bringing back multiverse Gamora after her death, all the multiverse Lokis, and then bringing back multiverse Spideys and clearly they handled those three in very different ways, it seems like there is an enormous amount of latitude to work with there. Starlord still had feelings for different-universe Gamora, so why can't Wakanda care about different-universe T'Challa? But if a multiverse T'Challa steps in who is more "different", will that come off in a different way? Or perhaps we'll just be expected to suspend disbelief and treat him as if he's the same, which is exactly what y'all wanted to do this time around?

 

[Copy Ninja]

you cant compare this situation to anything. Hemsworth has a decade plus in role lol. I dont even think Chadwick has a full 2 hours of screen time.

Even so Black Panther was a huge movie and had a massive cultural impact. Boseman's portrayal of T'Challa as universally applauded.

Put it this way, if Simu Liu were to die, I think MCU would write it in their story that the character he played in the MCU is also dead and they'll get another character to play the Shang Chi role and Shang Chi didn't have the impact close to Black Panther.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Even so Black Panther was a huge movie and had a massive cultural impact. Boseman's portrayal of T'Challa as universally applauded.

Put it this way, if Simu Liu were to die, I think MCU would write it in their story that the character he played in the MCU is also dead and they'll get another character to play the Shang Chi role and Shang Chi didn't have the impact close to Black Panther.

nikka is Shang Chi the Comic Character as significant as T'Challa?

GOD DAMN nikkas stop with these dumb ass comparisons.

T'Challa isn't some small fry unknown character. Most folks didnt even know wtf a Chang Chi was pre movie, Black Panther as a character was never the case. nikkas talking like we talking about fukking Ant man to get across their hoe ass logic.

 

[Peter Popoff]

1. I didn't call anyone a c00n.

2. I didn't say anyone had to support Black Panther if they don't want to.

3. No fukking clue what "#alllivesmatter" has to do with this

4. I have no issue with Black women being at the forefront of a superhero movie for just once in history, that doesn't make the movie any more "feminist agenda" than that one movie that already had a female warrior clan and a teenage girl supergenius in major roles.

5. I have no problem with the bad guy being Mexican or with Wakanda going to war with a different culture. Would you have preferred the bad guy be a sadistic ultraviolent Black man in an ape costume, like it was in the comics?


Does that cover all the goofiness or did I miss some?

1. My bad. You insinuated it.

2. You did and said it's by a black director so we should support it. In that case, we should've went out and saw "Harriet" or "Queen and Slim" which were both terrible with agendas.

3. In a black subject matter, everyone wants to include their bs to corrupt the overall message and divert it from a black cultured story at hand.

4. A movie about T'Challa being rerouted to black lesbians and docile men and a female that's not even part of the original story in the comics is part of a feminist agenda.

5. I would prefer a comic accurate movie. If it's in the comics, yes.

6. Na, you just spilled goofiness all over my truthfulness and fukked it up like a colonizer bruh. My hands itch mafukker.