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in all of this it is worth remembering that minor inconsistencies are largely excused away in the MCU.

even major ones are ignored or assumed to have an answer at a later date.

there is significant cognitive flexibility in the audience here.

That would conflict with their primary goal, which is to make money.

we will never know for sure whether their current path is the max $$$ path.

Doesn't work because A. they low-key started introducing Namor's emergence during Endgame,

that doesn't have to be viewed as an "intro". there are a million ways to cover for that. for example okoye could be telling the avengers that to keep it an internal wakandan matter. there is plenty of room to fit what were only a few sentences into another narrative. they showed atlantis in avengers II didn't they. was that an "intro" too? as long as the argument is plausible the audience will accept it as dogma.

B. that eliminates all the stars/cast they were developing for this line, and C. spoiler

it postpones. it does not eliminate.
lots of MCU projects get postponed. people get cut from their movies all the time. w'kabi is not appearing at all, to little effect, because he, despite his acting talent, was not a great characterr.
as I said there isn't much by way of a great supporting cast. there is a wakanda TV series so they could have roles and income there. the ones that are still around could appear in BP III.
sorry but I cannot see an issue here. other than monetary maybe.
kasumba appeared in falcon.
black widow guest starred for 10+ years and was still a fan favourite.
if the MCU became concerned about a great character's actor leaving due to this postponement they could write them in elsewhere.

From the previews Wakanda is getting flooded. If you're insinuating that Wakanda will be just fine afterwards, that destroys all the stakes that were built up by the potential destruction of Wakanda.

You don't invest that work into Lupita Nyong'o, Danai Gurira, Letitia Wright, and Winston Duke and then just put them on the back-burner for the next movie.

those characters are all weak and underdeveloped. that is why they are scrabbling around to find someone to even substitute for BP. that is down to who the MCU cast in those roles and how they were written but that is another story. the only possible exception is nakia but as I said above we have the wakandan TV series and guest appearances elsewhere to cover that. with little to no work nakia (and shuri for that matter) could appear in armor wars, wakanda TV show, what IF, ironheart TV show over the next few years. not bad for characters who have had next to zero lines and a few mins in almost 4+ years of the MCU.

all of wakanda is not getting flooded. mbaku's people will be safe in the mountains for example. who knows what wakanda was like before or how big it was. writing consequences in is easy. you have that post credits person ... klaw is involved which led to BP I and the death of n'jobu. you could add in kang. it could explain why t'chaka retired from BP. it could include more war dog stuff - n'jobu moving to america. and like they are doing now there will be consequences on the namor side. atuma is probably not going to make it out of the movie.
that flooding could explain wakanda's layout including the great falls. as we see humans are involved in the attack, it could explain why wakanda became even more isolationist. it could drive the adoption of the camouflage and shield defences. it could lead to the creation of the dora.
wakandan tech could have sunk atlantis in BPII leaving the sinking of wakanda for BPIII. maybe them mining too much vibranium did it. maybe by accident.

MCU movies set in the past can still make money. it just depends on how it is done. widow didn't. cap I did fine and is a good movie. captain marvel was OK and made a billion. all three films started in the past and ended in the present. BP II could have done the same.

BP III would probably come after kang messes everything up and that is a ready made reason for t'challa to change. as things stand I am sure that kang is going to change a lot anyway. timelines will be merged. histories will change.
 
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MCU won't recast major characters for continuity purposes. Not hard to comprehed but shyt goes over your head and you're calling people dumb :dead: :russ: .
It's like people are dumb. Talking about spiderman and batman like those are a continued world like the MCU.

The funny thing is people already know the character will be recast as part of the multiverse but these idiots can't wait it out.
 

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4. A movie about T'Challa being rerouted to black lesbians and docile men and a female that's not even part of the original story in the comics is part of a feminist agenda.

5. I would prefer a comic accurate movie. If it's in the comics, yes.
:snoop:Bruh. Lesbian Dora Milaje, Shuri being Black Panther and the Wakanda/Atlantis war are straight out of the comic books. Everything the MCU is doing with BP right now is mostly comic book accurate.

Are you actually a Black Panther fan, or is this just an opportunity for you to push your agenda?
it postpones. it does not eliminate.
lots of MCU projects get postponed. people get cut from their movies all the time. w'kabi is not appearing at all, to little effect, because he, despite his acting talent, was not a great characterr.
as I said there isn't much by way of a great supporting cast. there is a wakanda TV series so they could have roles and income there. the ones that are still around could appear in BP III.
sorry but I cannot see an issue here. other than monetary maybe.
kasumba appeared in falcon.
black widow guest starred for 10+ years and was still a fan favourite.
if the MCU became concerned about a great character's actor leaving due to this postponement they could write them in elsewhere.
:ohhh: So you are okay with postponing characters for later movies.
Glad we won't have to worry about you complaining about T'challa being postponed until the multiverses converge, then.:sas2:
 

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It's like people are dumb. Talking about spiderman and batman like those are a continued world like the MCU.

The funny thing is people already know the character will be recast as part of the multiverse but these idiots can't wait it out.

MCU take continuity to another level they got Toby Maguire and Andrew Garfield to reprise their roles as Spiderman. They could have gotten two other white actors to do it but they know what kind of reaction audiences would get if they got them to come back to play Spidey again.

shyt, they got Patrick Stewart to play Professor X in a one off, the same guy who played Black Bolt, Matt Murdock looks like it's gonna be the same actor as the Netflix series, same for Kingpin.
Meanwhile in the DCU, you got Joacquin Phoenix and Jared Leto playing Joker at the same time from the same studio (Warner Bros) :dead: :dead:
 

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:snoop:Bruh. Lesbian Dora Milaje, Shuri being Black Panther and the Wakanda/Atlantis war are straight out of the comic books. Everything the MCU is doing with BP right now is mostly comic book accurate.

Are you actually a Black Panther fan, or is this just an opportunity for you to push your agenda?

:ohhh: So you are okay with postponing characters for later movies.
Glad we won't have to worry about you complaining about T'challa being postponed until the multiverses converge, then.:sas2:
nikka please.
 

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Writing T'challa back into the MCU would be as simple as having an incursion occur (which they have already introduced) and having a T'challa from another universe get mixed into ours. That's all it's going to take. Incursions are already on their way and multiverses are going to start combining. All they need is one movie to bring back T'challa with minimal explanation because the groundwork has already been laid.

If I was writing it, I would just have T'challa come from a universe where his sister or all of Wakanda had been destroyed. Maybe make him King of the Dead already, and have him overseeing the ruins of Wakanda. When the multiverses collide he is extremely happy to have his sister alive and Wakanda back again. They could even have his sister start off distrusting him for looking different than Boseman, but then have a scene where his grief and fear of losing his sister again leads him to risk his own life to save MCU Shuri's, which will earn her to trust him as her brother.
You could set all this up with like 30 minutes or less of screen time. :yeshrug:
 

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MCU take continuity to another level they got Toby Maguire and Andrew Garfield to reprise their roles as Spiderman. They could have gotten two other white actors to do it but they know what kind of reaction audiences would get if they got them to come back to play Spidey again.

shyt, they got Patrick Stewart to play Professor X in a one off, the same guy who played Black Bolt, Matt Murdock looks like it's gonna be the same actor as the Netflix series, same for Kingpin.
Meanwhile in the DCU, you got Joacquin Phoenix and Jared Leto playing Joker at the same time from the same studio (Warner Bros) :dead: :dead:
Exactly why the MCU is bigger than DC shyt.. Thr MCU feels like you're connected. DC is stand alone shyt.
 

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Writing T'challa back into the MCU would be as simple as having an incursion occur (which they have already introduced) and having a T'challa from another universe get mixed into ours. That's all it's going to take. Incursions are already on their way and multiverses are going to start combining. All they need is one movie to bring back T'challa with minimal explanation because the groundwork has already been laid.

If I was writing it, I would just have T'challa come from a universe where his sister or all of Wakanda had been destroyed. Maybe make him King of the Dead already, and have him overseeing the ruins of Wakanda. When the multiverses collide he is extremely happy to have his sister alive and Wakanda back again. They could even have his sister start off distrusting him for looking different than Boseman, but then have a scene where his grief and fear of losing his sister again leads him to risk his own life to save MCU Shuri's, which will earn her to trust him as her brother.
You could set all this up with like 30 minutes or less of screen time. :yeshrug:
That would delay BP until like 2025. There is no way in hell they do an incursion right now out of the blue with 616 :dead:

And If they delay that long they might as well just recasted him and said fukk it. Their problem was how to handle BP releasing a couple years after Chadwick died. There was no good way to deal with that. A recast this soon would have been a disaster. They made the right call, try to develop the other characters in this movie and hope it goes over well. If it fails they pluck another BP out of the multiverse or something.
 

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That would delay BP until like 2025. There is no way in hell they do an incursion right now out of the blue with 616 :dead:

And If they delay that long they might as well just recasted him and said fukk it. Their problem was how to handle BP releasing a couple years after Chadwick died. There was no good way to deal with that. A recast this soon would have been a disaster. They made the right call, try to develop the other characters in this movie and hope it goes over well. If it fails they pluck another BP out of the multiverse or something.
I do think they should have recasted, but I am okay with their decision not to do it for this movie, and I fully understand why they made that choice. I'm talking about for the future after this movie.

With that said, they already mentioned an incursion out of the blue in MoM, so if it happens a second time is it really out of the blue? It wouldn't even have to be an incursion happening to the current MCU, it could be two universes that were both destroyed and T'challa and some others bounced out to the MCU as refugees. If you're up on Hickman's Avengers: Time Runs Out run, then this will be a familiar concept already. Phase 5 is called "the Multiverse Saga" and Phase 6 ends with Secret Wars, and all of that is before 2025. There's going to be plenty of opportunity for T'challa to return.
 

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Writing T'challa back into the MCU would be as simple as having an incursion occur (which they have already introduced) and having a T'challa from another universe get mixed into ours. That's all it's going to take. Incursions are already on their way and multiverses are going to start combining. All they need is one movie to bring back T'challa with minimal explanation because the groundwork has already been laid.

If I was writing it, I would just have T'challa come from a universe where his sister or all of Wakanda had been destroyed. Maybe make him King of the Dead already, and have him overseeing the ruins of Wakanda. When the multiverses collide he is extremely happy to have his sister alive and Wakanda back again. They could even have his sister start off distrusting him for looking different than Boseman, but then have a scene where his grief and fear of losing his sister again leads him to risk his own life to save MCU Shuri's, which will earn her to trust him as her brother.
You could set all this up with like 30 minutes or less of screen time. :yeshrug:
I had a similar idea. Mine was that 616 shuri was working on a device to communicate with/travel to Wakandas in the multiverse. At some point Okoye and Nakia accidentally get transported to a Wakanda where there is an incursion happening, along with an attack by some hostile beings. Okoye and Nakia link up with that t'challa and explain to him how they got there, etc. Meanwhile, Shuri is working on a way to get them back to 616 reality. First half of the movie is Nakia and Okoye bonding with that T'challa and trying to help him protect Wakanda, which is ultimately doomed as the incursion destroys more and more of that universe. Ultimately Wakanda is falling to the incursion/invastion (perhaps by Skrulls or other aliens fleeing the incursion) and Okoye, T'challa and Nakia are making a last stand. Just as it's about to be destroyed, Shuri locks on to them, and brings back T'Challa as well because they are fighting right next to him. 616 Wakanda is also facing an invasion (could have been Namor's people but that's done), and because Okoye and Nakia have bonded with that T'challa they tell Wakanda that he has the spirit of their T'challa. And the new t'challa because his Wakanda is gone vows to fight for any Wakanda, and joins the battle ultimately being the catalyst for their victory. Afterwards, the people of wakanda accept him as he's proven his worth as a T'challa in their world.

This is just basic outline, obviously would have to be perfected.
 

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:ohhh: So you are okay with postponing characters for later movies.
Glad we won't have to worry about you complaining about T'challa being postponed until the multiverses converge, then.:sas2:

ya got me ..... :dead:


you have a fine brain jack ...
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meanwhile in the real world people in this threasd are operating from the premise that what Feige has said about recasting T'challa is true.

stick a "given that Feige is telling the truth" before every statement if that helps you understand.

a fine smooth brain jack :wow: fine and smooth

it's "have recast" not "have recasted" :ufdup:
 

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ya got me ..... :dead:


you have a fine brain jack ...
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meanwhile in the real world people in this threasd are operating from the premise that what Feige has said about recasting T'challa is true.

stick a "given that Feige is telling the truth" before every statement if that helps you understand.

a fine smooth brain jack :wow: fine and smooth

it's "have recast" not "have recasted" :ufdup:

DEADLINE: It was announced at Disney Investor Day that you would not recast another actor in the role of T’Challa for Black Panther 2 following Chadwick Boseman’s death. Can you tell us more about that? Will this be similar to what was done in Tron where a younger Jeff Bridges was replicated via CG? Or is this a whole different angle on Black Panther 2? There’s been rumors that it will have a female angle.

FEIGE: So much of the comics and that first movie is the world of Wakanda. Wakanda is a place to further explore with characters and different subcultures. This was always and initially the primary focus of the next story. We’re not going to have a CG Chadwick and we’re not recasting T’Challa. Ryan Coogler is working very hard right now on the script with all the respect and love and genius that he has, which gives us great solace, so it was always about furthering the mythology and the inspiration of Wakanda. There’s also the task of honoring and respecting the ongoing learnings and teachings from Chad as well.​

I'm sorry, us simple jacks must have a hard time with reading comprehension. Can you please explain to me where in this quote Feige talks about forever and not specifically for BP2? Seeing as you got a big rippled brain and all, shouldn't be too hard for you to point out.
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You've been so kind to help me with my grammar, please help out a smooth brain like me by pointing out where Feige says what you're claiming, Mr. big smart ripple brain.:troll:
 

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I'm sorry, us simple jacks must have a hard time with reading comprehension. Can you please explain to me where in this quote Feige talks about forever and not specifically for BP2? Seeing as you got a big rippled brain and all, shouldn't be too hard for you to point out.
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You've been so kind to help me with my grammar, please help out a smooth brain like me by pointing out where Feige says what you're claiming, Mr. big smart ripple brain.:troll:

you see that is not how things work jack.

in the absence of any statements whatsoever that marvel WILL recast you should assume nothing.

the only statements so far is that they will not.

your fine smooth brain however has driven you to assert something that has no evidence supporting it whatsoever :picard:

if you claim that they "WILL" recast t'challa then the burden is on you to show evidence for that. if you are saying they could, then yes they "could" do all sorts of things but then you need to edit your post to add a caveat.
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feige's comments alone could be interpreted subjectively but as I am sure yuou know, nate moore expanded on feige's comments and made the statement that t'chella will not appear again in universe 616.

now it is possible that they are talking at cross purposes. it is possible that they are both lying. it is possible that 616 will come to an end.

for now though these claims would constitute supposition and feige video PLUS the following quotes are what we have to work with.

1. unqualified statement by nate moore

"Chadwick Boseman’s T’Challa won’t be recast, says MCU boss

"We have to figure out how to move this franchise on without that character"
"“I’m being quite honest,” Moore said on The Ringer-verse Podcast, “you will not see T’Challa in the MCU.”"

Chadwick Boseman's T'Challa won't be recast, says MCU boss

2. 616 qualified statement by nate moore
"Moore made it quite clear that fans, 'will not see T'Challa in the MCU 616 universe,'"
Marvel's Nate Moore opens up about not recasting T'challa

3. nate more says on video "chances of seeing t'challa in universe 616 i.e. the MCU main timeline are unhedged zero. you will not see him because the universe and the character are one and the same."


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