Official Logan (Wolverine 3) Thread

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:russell: you think comic book films have to beholden to the comics.


I don't.

You're an old curmudgeon stuck in your own shytty taste and don't want to see things done differently.


Your opinion is one note and boring. Just go read the comics. You hate anything that strays at all and praise garbage that sticks to the formula no matter how old and dull it is.

If a studio does a novel adaptation, I expect them to follow the novel. If a studio does a video game adaptation, I expect them to follow the game. That's common logic. This doesn't mean a movie can't be good if it diverts from the source material, but as a fan why would you ever want this? That's why alternate realities and surrogates exist, so if you always wanted to know what an evil Superman story would be like, you don't have to whine to DC, you can just pick up Mark Waid's Irredeemable, and if you always wanted to see an R-rated Muppets movie, you can let The Jim Henson Company just do their thing and watch Peter Jackson's Meet The Feebles instead.

FF needs to be shaken up.

The comics don't sell, the movies have been terrible


Give it an R rating,let the writers do what they want.

No holds barred. I thought the only real interesting part in all 3 FF films was the body horror scenes in the new one.


That made me :ohhh: bit the rest of the film didn't match it in tone or anything else.

It can be done and done well. Does the world need another pg 13 comic book film? There is only so much you can do and so many of these stories and characters do have similarities.

I'm not saying a rated R FF would be garaunteed to be good,I'm saying i want to see what it would look like.

Fox should take this market.

The comics sold when their was a good writer on them (Jonathan Hickman, who pushed the book into the top 10 sales for months), the movies have been terrible because of shytty film making. Again, for someone who originally claimed "don't be grim, dark and edgy. Be adult", you really continue to expose yourself as a fool because what or what you can't do with a story or characters isn't defined by the MPAA rating, it's defined by the quality of storytelling and film making. And if you might want to know what an R-rated Fantastic Four would be like? Just read Warren Ellis' Planetary. So FF can be left alone and stay true to what it is.
 

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Got to see it again to see where it ranks but it's def. in my top 10 CB movies off all time
 

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If a studio does a novel adaptation, I expect them to follow the novel. If a studio does a video game adaptation, I expect them to follow the game. That's common logic. This doesn't mean a movie can't be good if it diverts from the source material, but as a fan why would you ever want this? That's why alternate realities and surrogates exist, so if you always wanted to know what an evil Superman story would be like, you don't have to whine to DC, you can just pick up Mark Waid's Irredeemable, and if you always wanted to see an R-rated Muppets movie, you can let The Jim Henson Company just do their thing and watch Peter Jackson's Meet The Feebles instead.



The comics sold when their was a good writer on them (Jonathan Hickman, who pushed the book into the top 10 sales for months), the movies have been terrible because of shytty film making. Again, for someone who originally claimed "don't be grim, dark and edgy. Be adult", you really continue to expose yourself as a fool because what or what you can't do with a story or characters isn't defined by the MPAA rating, it's defined by the quality of storytelling and film making. And if you might want to know what an R-rated Fantastic Four would be like? Just read Warren Ellis' Planetary. So FF can be left alone and stay true to what it is.
The only thing being exposed is how terrible of a taste you have when something doesn't fit into exactly what you think it has to be.


You have the same characteristics of a 60 year old man.


I already know your opinion before I read it. Predictable and boring :russell:


You don't want anyone else's vision. You want your own.


Most likely because you're a failed writer in your spare time.
 

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The only thing being exposed is how terrible of a taste you have when something doesn't fit into exactly what you think it has to be.


You have the same characteristics of a 60 year old man.


I already know your opinion before I read it. Predictable and boring :russell:


You don't want anyone else's vision. You want your own.


Most likely because you're a failed writer in your spare time.
So you have no counter argument to the fact you say you want comic book movies to be more adult, but you really just want to see them become R-rated? I guess I win by forfeit then. :yeshrug:
 

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I felt the cussing was forced and they forced titties into the conversation but other than that solid film I loved the gore porn.
 

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It's kind of silly how people are so obsessed with the whole timeline shenigans... Too many bad films in the timeline and the whole alternative timeline bullshyt.

It's really weird when Fox actually let the right people in control of their films. They knock it out of the park.

Need to cut bait with Singer and somehow clone Matthew Vaughn to keep in control of X-Men. As soon he step away completely from writing/director. Old shytty Singer bring us back to shytty X-Men films. DOFP, FC, Logan, and Deadpool completely wipes the floor of 99% of MCU films. X-2 was great for its time, but it's not as good without the nostalgia.

Sad that Fox's shytty comic films are probably WOAT. Such a crazy extreme between the two. Also, Fox is the only one that will let them to be coaxed into R rated comic book films. They have an exclusive market that WB and Disney will refuse to cater too.
 

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It's kind of silly how people are so obsessed with the whole timeline shenigans... Too many bad films in the timeline and the whole alternative timeline bullshyt.

It's really weird when Fox actually let the right people in control of their films. They knock it out of the park.

Need to cut bait with Singer and somehow clone Matthew Vaughn to keep in control of X-Men. As soon he step away completely from writing/director. Old shytty Singer bring us back to shytty X-Men films. DOFP, FC, Logan, and Deadpool completely wipes the floor of 99% of MCU films. X-2 was great for its time, but it's not as good without the nostalgia.

Sad that Fox's shytty comic films are probably WOAT. Such a crazy extreme between the two. Also, Fox is the only one that will let them to be coaxed into R rated comic book films. They have an exclusive market that WB and Disney will refuse to cater too.
When you give control to writer/directors you are inevitably going to have highs and lows


When you cynically make films into formula driven factories you might not hit the same lows,but you will never hit the highs.

I'd rather aim high and miss once in a while then just follow a formula.
 

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One of, if not his first, uncontrollable seizure that killed mutants at the school except Wolverine because he's got that healing agent, also killed a bunch of regular people and paralyzed 600 more thus the gov't labeled him a WMD. Logan hid him in Mexico fearing they'd kill him. His plan was to live in the ocean to be away from everyone so he'd never hurt another nor be killed.

Because of this incident, that doctor was able to be allowed to infect everyday household and food items with biochemicals to surpress the mutant gene. Instead, it killed damn near every mutant on the planet. Therefore, Wolverine doesn't want Charles to carry that guilt along with the Westchester incident.

In the comics, Wolverine accidentally killed everybody, not Charles, while under an illusion thinking he was protecting the kids at the mansion

It's cold, but the fact that they changed the future, only for all the mutants to die anyway is just :wow:

That's a very interesting, "timeline always fixing itself" sort of ideal about it when you think about it.

Great movie it's about an 8.75/10 for me. Certain lil deviations really brought it down for me, but overall I highly enjoyed the movie. Possibly even the best outright X-men related movie IMO so far. Easily best Wolverine movie, of course.
 

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Thefagling is exactly like those annoying people that everybody hates in threads about shows based on books constantly whining that the show isnt like the book any time its different


He'd be one of those people that hated the shining because it was too different than the Novel.

Him referencing a bunch of comics is further proof of that.

Some people are so resistant to change that you won't ever get through to them.


Just call them senile and move on.
 

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Thefagling is exactly like those annoying people that everybody hates in threads about shows based on books constantly whining that the show isnt like the book any time its different


He'd be one of those people that hated the shining because it was too different than the Novel.

Him referencing a bunch of comics is further proof of that.

Some people are so resistant to change that you won't ever get through to them.


Just call them senile and move on.
Your petty insults don't change the fact that you still have no response to you clearly pretending to want movies dealing with adult subject matter but really just want an R-rating slapped on everything. But hey, hopefully this summer Marvel has Spidey beat a couple of street thugs to death because that really drives home that lesson about how with great power comes great responsibility. I'm sure the @MartyMcFly's of the world will love this darker exploration of the character and if not, well... I guess they're just a bunch of annoying fanboys, amiright?
 
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