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If thats the case then why wait for Jurassic World when the gawds have already blessed us this year with this.

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No big studio lol. No Spielberg backing breh. The franchise has never relied on big stars. Ever. Not in the first one and not in the 2nd or 3rd. They relied on the director and the fact that he was bringing you dinosaurs. And then for the third it was "hey we're doing another one!" Now they need a name but I contend that it's still not necessary. The franchise sells itself
 

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No big studio lol. No Spielberg backing breh. The franchise has never relied on big stars. Ever. Not in the first one and not in the 2nd or 3rd. They relied on the director and the fact that he was bringing you dinosaurs. And then for the third it was "hey we're doing another one!" Now they need a name but I contend that it's still not necessary. The franchise sells itself
Thats fine but after the disaster of jp3 they knew they couldnt sell this movie without a star in it to appeal to the new generation. Star Lord being in it gives it that star push. Like it or not.
 

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Thats fine but after the disaster of jp3 they knew they couldnt sell this movie without a star in it to appeal to the new generation. Star Lord being in it gives it that star push. Like it or not.

You might be right or they realized since it's been 14 years they needed a name but even then, he was cast before guardians came out before he was a name. he was filming guardians while talking to the director for this. Again homie, I'm not saying he isn't a star but I'm also not saying he's this huge draw who can't lose right now. I'm looking at both sides of the argument and trying to find the middle because there are parts of the argument I agree with you on and parts I disagree with you on. The attraction for the jurassic park movies has never been the cast..ever. What hurt Jurassic Park 3 was the bad word of mouth, not the fact that it didn't have a star attached to it. A bad movie is a bad movie regardless of what kind of window dressing you want to put on it and that's what happened there. And you could argue the same thing for the lost world (most people do, I still don't) so in the minds of most, there is only one good movie in the franchise. I think a jurassic park movie that looks fun and with a sense of thrill and adventure can easily be sold. Jurassic Park 3 was none of those things and again, it's a bad movie. But you're mostly selling this movie to the nostalgia crowd and kids and I'm sorry man but as a kid, I didn't give a damn about a star. I begged moms to see this because it had dinosaurs, not because it had Sam Neil and Goldbum. I went to see the 2nd because I loved the first and again, it had dinosaurs, not because it had Goldblum and Julliane Moore

This isn't a "like it or not" argument for me because as I've said countless times, I like dude a lot and outside of delivery man, I've seen everything he's done in the past few years and liked it but I do feel like @FlyRy has a bit of a point along with anyone else who's taking that stance. Doesn't mean anyone is hating and I'm definitely not, it's just looking at the situation as a whole rather than taking one part of it and magnifying that one part. Not everything is a black and white argument
 

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You might be right or they realized since it's been 14 years they needed a name but even then, he was cast before guardians came out before he was a name. he was filming guardians while talking to the director for this. Again homie, I'm not saying he isn't a star but I'm also not saying he's this huge draw who can't lose right now. I'm looking at both sides of the argument and trying to find the middle because there are parts of the argument I agree with you on and parts I disagree with you on. The attraction for the jurassic park movies has never been the cast..ever. What hurt Jurassic Park 3 was the bad word of mouth, not the fact that it didn't have a star attached to it. A bad movie is a bad movie regardless of what kind of window dressing you want to put on it and that's what happened there. And you could argue the same thing for the lost world (most people do, I still don't) so in the minds of most, there is only one good movie in the franchise. I think a jurassic park movie that looks fun and with a sense of thrill and adventure can easily be sold. Jurassic Park 3 was none of those things and again, it's a bad movie. But you're mostly selling this movie to the nostalgia crowd and kids and I'm sorry man but as a kid, I didn't give a damn about a star. I begged moms to see this because it had dinosaurs, not because it had Sam Neil and Goldbum. I went to see the 2nd because I loved the first and again, it had dinosaurs, not because it had Goldblum and Julliane Moore

This isn't a "like it or not" argument for me because as I've said countless times, I like dude a lot and outside of delivery man, I've seen everything he's done in the past few years and liked it but I do feel like @FlyRy has a bit of a point along with anyone else who's taking that stance. Doesn't mean anyone is hating and I'm definitely not, it's just looking at the situation as a whole rather than taking one part of it and magnifying that one part. Not everything is a black and white argument

Well I think jp2 has more haters than jp3 and I never knew sam neil going into jp. But like u said its 14 years later. Times have changed. Studios cant push a huge movie like jw without some star power. Even if its from a new rising star like pratt. Putting another sam nail in this would b a huge risk. They played it safe and got Star Lord. And lets not act like if gotg was a flop they wouldnt have gotten another actor. But they knew he was doing lego too and his resume is legit. He is only getting bigger with each role. Im not saying if he wasnt in jw it wouldnt still b huge but pratt and his comedic skills will def give the franchise new life. If not they would have just got goldblum or some other b actor to fill the role. This is why most super hero roles are going to bigger names now. Studios are covering all bases to make sure they do big numbers. Look at suicide squad. Look at the Matthew M thread and how people reacted to him possibly being in the new spidey. Jp isnt a super hero flick but in 2015 same rules apply. You need some type of star power.
 
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I've said it several times, the mystique of dinosaurs has faded. Doesn't mean they can't reinvent it but JP was huge because we had never seen it before and after couple more flicks it's just another monster film with bad cgi. This flick can be fun but I'm not sure they know how to bring back the excitement.
 

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Yup they trying to get that Wahlberg trilogy going now.
After that last one, I don't know if I'ma up for for watching another one so soon. I didn't even finish it actually. It was so boring. Sad, cause the first one is like one of my favorite movies. Dark of the Moon was pretty good too.
 

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After that last one, I don't know if I'ma up for for watching another one so soon. I didn't even finish it actually. It was so boring. Sad, cause the first one is like one of my favorite movies. Dark of the Moon was pretty good too.

From what I read the other day, they're going with an animated one next and they're waiting for Bay to be done with his Benghazi movie before they work on a 5th, possibly trying to entice him to come back so I don't think it's happening next year
 

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From what I read the other day, they're going with an animated one next and they're waiting for Bay to be done with his Benghazi movie before they work on a 5th, possibly trying to entice him to come back so I don't think it's happening next year
Yea I remember seeing 2017 somewhere. An animated one would be cool if its a whole new story from the live action ones.

Bay is doing a Benghazi movie? About the Benghazi attacks?
 

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