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Just literally came in from seeing this cinematic masterpiece. Acting was top notch, the motif was unique and impressive, the setting of Newark for Gotham was excellent and gave it a grim undertone, the plot was intense and dark(the way I like it), the portrayal of mental illness was realistic and scary, and finally the theme was also amazing like everything else. I give this film a 9.8/10. This shyt is a classic. I didn't think there would ever be a Joker that came close to Health Ledger Joker and while I still consider Ledger Joker the GOAT Joker I do consider this Joker a worthy successor. :wow:

And for all the pussies who were all scary for this film(some of yall need to go to church) while I agree the film was very, very dark I seen NOTHING from this film that would inspire mass shootings. :mjlol: This Joker while :demonic: was mostly about characterization if anything. Now the Ledger Joker did MORE killings(not to spoil anything) and the Dark Knight was PG-13.:heh: I was expecting some Modern Warfare 2 "No Russians" type controversy.:heh: The only controversial thing this film does is in a way make you sympathize with the Joker. That's it. But anyways film is a classic. I pray this Joker is connected to Batman. Because if so then DC has some classics on their hands.

Edit: Not sure what this movie has to do with incels. Joker did not come off as an incel but a mentally ill(and potentially dangerous) person that felt he was abandoned by society in general.
 
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Joker director explains that huge Batman twist

"I liked leaving the idea of Arthur being Thomas Wayne's son ambiguous," he told Empire.

"Part of the fun is that question being out there. What would that change if Joker is somehow a blood relation to Bruce Wayne?

"Part of the movie is a search for identity. Arthur's idea is to fit in and belong somewhere.

"So this idea of Arthur not knowing who his father is, where he came from, if he was adopted, what the story was, was another element in his search for identity."
 

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LMFAOOOOOOO

Mofos listen to music that literally talks about killing and degrading their own people and THIS is the straw. That statement wasn't directed at OP but more so a general statement regarding this being what is 'too much'.
That post proves how pussified this society has become. This movie? Disturbing? :heh: IDK maybe because I watched may more disturbing shyt than this. There was hardly any violence in this movie.:mjlol:
 

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Depression wasn’t the main issue. It is the fact that the rich can go to theatre 8 times a week while trash isn’t picked up and they cut services for the demented.

You missed the the entire point of the movie then. Watch it again. depression is the driving force in this movie. This Joker is about "Nobody understands me", so how bounces his fake-happy murderous personality, over the one he's trying to kill off (depression).
 

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Joker Director Todd Phillips Knows What’s Real and What Arthur Imagined, But He’s Not Telling

Joker director Todd Phillips has a “firm view” on what was and what wasn’t imagined by a mentally ill Arthur Fleck (Joaquin Phoenix), who emerges as Gotham City symbol the Joker, but the filmmaker is leaving the film up for interpretation. Like the comic book counterpart of the infamous Batman villain, who in The Killing Joke claims his past is multiple choice, this Joker suffers from delusions that imagined a warm reception by wannabe father figure Murray Franklin (Robert De Niro) on The Murray Franklin Show and a romantic relationship with next door neighbor Sophie (Zazie Beetz). On speculation the entirety of Joker is all in the institutionalized Arthur’s head, Phillips isn’t resisting beliefs most of the film was fantasized.

“You could [read it that way],” Phillips told Empire. “I have a firm view on it too, but yeah you certainly could.”

Some saw ambiguity surrounding the fate of Sophie, who was last seen frightened when confronting an unhinged Arthur in her apartment. It was there audiences realized the romantic developments between Sophie and Arthur were delusions.

“We wanted to make the interpretation of the real versus what’s not real, a part of the viewer’s experience,” cinematographer Lawrence Sher previously told /Film. “For instance, his relationship to Sophie is a fantasy to him. Some people have asked me, ‘Was she killed?’ [Phillips] makes it clear she wasn’t killed. Arthur is killing people who’ve wronged him in a certain way, and Sophie never wronged him. In terms of what we did visually to play with the real and not real, there are callbacks and scenes that mirror each other. We leave hints using imagery or way we covered scenes similarly between scene. Outside of that, I like that people can have the conversation and come to their own conclusions.”

Phillips earlier told ComicBook.com he wanted to leave audiences questioning reality when watching Joker because that uncertainty is “part of the fun.”

“When Scott Silver and I sat down to write it, we knew enough about the comics,” he said. “I read comics when I was a kid, we knew [Joker] didn’t have an origin story. I don’t want to say whether it’s real or not because I think [it’s] part of the fun. I’ve shown it to many, many different people and they all have a different reaction. Some of them say, ‘Oh I get it, I mean the last line in the movie, you wouldnt get it, to a joke he was telling. Well is the joke the movie? Is the joke the thing?’ The idea is you don’t like to answer those questions, because it’s nice to see the different things people take away from it.”
 
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