Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

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True but what If they decide to mesh that in. That is what I’m wondering after this stellar performance. I’m sure WB is now thinking about that now as we speak.
If they were smart, they wouldn’t. What they SHOULD do is another small-scale film like this to see if they can replicate it. Rushing into trying to establish an expanded universe is what bit them in the ass in the first place.
 

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If they were smart, they wouldn’t. What they SHOULD do is another small-scale film like this to see if they can replicate it. Rushing into trying to establish an expanded universe is what bit them in the ass in the first place.
I just cant see this being branched out into some Batman shyt or even having a sequel.
Its a great 1-off.
It would be ill if they really just did these shyts like that going forward.
Mad 1-offs!
That way they could introduce all these obscure characters and get crazy with the creativeness.
I just finished Swamp Thing like last week and that was off the meat!
Admittedly, im not a big DC comics guy, but id like to see them get it poppin with some other muthafukkas NOT named Batman or Superman.
I mean, is this shyt really that hard??
:francis:
 

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I just cant see this being branched out into some Batman shyt or even having a sequel.
Its a great 1-off.
It would be ill if they really just did these shyts like that going forward.
Mad 1-offs!
That way they could introduce all these obscure characters and get crazy with the creativeness.
I just finished Swamp Thing like last week and that was off the meat!
Admittedly, im not a big DC comics guy, but id like to see them get it poppin with some other muthafukkas NOT named Batman or Superman.
I mean, is this shyt really that hard??
:francis:
It's frustrating cause they clearly got the blueprint :pachaha:

Swamp Thing was ill and a movie with the exact same tone would be flames too.
 

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Dope movie, Joaquin was spectacular.
Arthur is a puss the whole movie and it fits the character but I felt his transformation never "completes". Like we're not left off feeling like this guy is a master of chaos.


I want to say we got a criminal Gangster Clown Prince of Crime, but we got a mentally ill man who falls into crime, which is actually more realistic. But where's my super criminal?
You were watching with comic book movie goggles on and were disappointed. Shame, but that's on you. :ufdup:
 

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‘Joker’ To Rake In Half-Billion In Profit On Par With ‘Avengers: Infinity War’ – Deadline

Joker
Profit Statement


Domestic Box Office * 310M
International* 590M
China n/a
Global Box Office* 900M
Theatrical Revenue
Domestic Rentals 155M
International Rentals 266M
Home Entertainment & TV Revenue
Domestic Home Entertainment 75M
International Home Entertainment 71M
Domestic Free TV 25M
Domestic Pay TV 35M
International TV 124M
Total Revenues 750M
Costs
Production Cost 70M
Global P&A 120M
Participations/Residuals/Global Home Ent. Costs 97M
Total Costs 287M
Profit 464M

:whew:
 

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So I saw it a second time to pay closer attention. Two thoughts in particular:


- I’m fairly certain he was never taking his meds, he was giving them to his mom.

I suspected it on first watch and looked for it on the second. At the beginning when he comes home with meds, they show a close up for him opening the pills in his hands, and then they cut to him walking a TV dinner tray into his moms bed and he starts cutting up her food for her, while she comments that he doesn’t eat and he’s too skinny.

Later, you see him chopping up the last of the meds and they cut to him from through the kitchen wall cut out and you see him make the motion of wiping the chopped up pull off the counter and then he comes around the corner with a bowl of oatmeal in his hands. He puts it down like it’s for him, but when Thomas Wayne comes on the news and his mom starts babbling about how he’s going to save them all, she’s eating the oatmeal, not Arthur.

We never see him eat, and both times they show the meds, it’s tied to him feeding his mom.

- I’m debating whether his co worker actually gave him the gun or whether he imagined that scene in his head but had really stolen it from him.

That scene where he tells him he’s not supposed to have a gun and he gives it to him, free of charge and calls him his boy.

when he makes a scene at the children’s hospital and gets fired on the phone, his boss said his co worker “ said you tried to buy a gun off him two weeks ago”

When him and the midget show up at his house, he’s super sketched out with Arthur and just mentions the police are talking to him and he’s like to ‘get his story straight” and then calls him “his boy” again and Arthur kills him.

I wonder if Arthur thought he slighted him on the gun, when in actuality he never even gave it to him.

could be over thinking the second one but feeling pretty sure on the first.
 

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So I saw it a second time to pay closer attention. Two thoughts in particular:


- I’m fairly certain he was never taking his meds, he was giving them to his mom.

I suspected it on first watch and looked for it on the second. At the beginning when he comes home with meds, they show a close up for him opening the pills in his hands, and then they cut to him walking a TV dinner tray into his moms bed and he starts cutting up her food for her, while she comments that he doesn’t eat and he’s too skinny.

Later, you see him chopping up the last of the meds and they cut to him from through the kitchen wall cut out and you see him make the motion of wiping the chopped up pull off the counter and then he comes around the corner with a bowl of oatmeal in his hands. He puts it down like it’s for him, but when Thomas Wayne comes on the news and his mom starts babbling about how he’s going to save them all, she’s eating the oatmeal, not Arthur.

We never see him eat, and both times they show the meds, it’s tied to him feeding his mom.

- I’m debating whether his co worker actually gave him the gun or whether he imagined that scene in his head but had really stolen it from him.

That scene where he tells him he’s not supposed to have a gun and he gives it to him, free of charge and calls him his boy.

when he makes a scene at the children’s hospital and gets fired on the phone, his boss said his co worker “ said you tried to buy a gun off him two weeks ago”

When him and the midget show up at his house, he’s super sketched out with Arthur and just mentions the police are talking to him and he’s like to ‘get his story straight” and then calls him “his boy” again and Arthur kills him.

I wonder if Arthur thought he slighted him on the gun, when in actuality he never even gave it to him.

could be over thinking the second one but feeling pretty sure on the first.
:patrice: this makes more sense now that you say this :patrice:
 

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Thought the trailer sucked and didn't want to see it.

Heard nothing, but great things about it.

Finishing now, glad I didn't spend $$$ on it.

His acting was cool, but HTF are people calling this a GREAT film???
 

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Would be a good take on Joker is I didn't see the King of Comedy. But its a Frankenstein of a two films...while not bad, its nowhere near a masterpiece for me. Obviously good acting from Phoenix, but for me, I didn't need a Joker origin story, especially not one that dealt with a huge agenda like depression. Something I'm glad Nolan didn't do for either Bane or Joker.
 
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