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He wasn't recast. This movie was always intended as something separate from what was, at the time, DC's movie universe. There was going to be two Jokers. Joaquin's and Leto's that would be involved with the main universe.

You don't think MJB would be pissed if Marvel announced that Jordan Peele would be doing a movie about Killmonger's origin, but it would be separate from Marvel's main universe, would be a dark psychological thriller, would star someone else, that there would be two Killmonger's?


Because WB chopped the fukk out of his scenes and edited it in a way that changed his motivations.

Marvel would never do something like that tho. :mjlol:

Dude was never gonna return as Joker anyway. I’m sure the mixed reviews played a part in it. Leto can say all the stuff he wants, but at the end of the day it doesn’t matter.

Dude still a fukkboy for trying to stop a movie being made over petty shyt. :scust:
 

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You mean not sticking to a formula? Aint no rule in Hollywood making money. :comeon:
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Apparently, Christopher Nolan was pissed because WB hired George Miller to do a Justice League movie that was going to have a different Batman, while he was working on Dark Knight.

IESB.net - Movie News, Reviews, Interviews and More! - INTERVIEW: Is Christian Bale In or Out of WB’s Justice League?

Q: Are you doing Justice League after TDK?

Bale: No

IESB: Have you been approached for Justice League?

Bale: No

IESB: How would you feel about the studio recasting Batman for Justice League?

Bale: It’d be better if it doesn’t tread on the toes of what we’re doing, though I feel that it would be better if it comes out after Batman 3.
 

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Yeah, I read that. Don’t remember why it was shelved, or it was gonna coincide with Nolan’s. :ld:
The Justice League Movie You Never Saw

Our own Don Kaye had a chance to ask George Miller about why Justice League: Mortal had its plug pulled at the last minute. "Well," he began, "it's weird." We don't doubt it.

He did clarify things, though:

"There was a writers strike. There was some legislation with a tax rebate to make it in Australia. It was the first film that came up, and there was a debate about whether it was Australian content even though I was driving it. It didn’t have to be Australian content, but Australian control. But there was a board that no longer exists that the government cobbled together from people who knew nothing about the film industry. And they voted -- they struck it down by one vote. We were all ready. Once that happened and then the writers’ strike happened…it fell apart."
But there's always the lingering issue of whether Warner Bros. was comfortable having different versions of its own characters competing with each other for audience dollars. Superman Returns had opened in 2006 with Brandon Routh in the title role, and while it underperformed at the box office, a sequel had been penciled in for 2009. Smallville was in the middle of some of its most successful seasons. DJ Cotrona would have made the third live-action Superman vying for attention at the same time.
Adam Brody believed that Warner Bros. "just didn’t want to cross their streams with a whole bunch of Batmans in the universe and all the other reasons they didn’t make it." Justice League: Mortal would have been in production while the promotional machine for Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight was in full gear, and with the third film in that Batman trilogy on the horizon, an "unassociated" Batman might not have been welcome. Meanwhile, the big screen Batman of the era, Christian Bale, seemed less than enthused by the whole affair, saying "It’d be better if it doesn’t tread on the toes of what we’re doing," and "it would be better if it comes out after Batman 3."
shyt would've been in production while TDK promo was going on and probably would've been released a year or two after, and shortly before Dark Knight Rises.
 

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Every Record Joker Has Already Broken at the Box Office

No one is laughing at Joker, studio Warner Bros.highest-grossing release of the year. Since its Oct. 4 start, the Todd Phillips-directed drama has earned a still-growing $737 million worldwide, making it the eighth highest-grossing movie of 2019. Joker has left a series of shattered records in its wake, including ousting Sony’s Venomas October’s largest domestic and international opening of all time, Warner Bros.’ biggest domestic opening since 2017, the fourth-best opening weekend for an R-rated movie domestically, and career bests for Phillips and stars Joaquin Phoenix and Robert De Niro. Joker’s box office success gets the last laugh on WB, as the studio reportedly gave the film, set outside its mainstream DC Comics film continuity, a smaller budget in hopes it wouldn’t get made.

ALL TIME BIGGEST OCTOBER DOMESTIC OPENING AND OCTOBER OPENING DAY

Joker’s $96.2 million opening weekend topped the $80.3m pulled in by the PG-13-rated Venom one year earlier and won October’s biggest opening day with $39.7m.

ALL TIME BIGGEST OCTOBER INTERNATIONAL OPENING

Again topping Venom, which swung to a $127.2m international opening, Joker rolled out internationally with $152m, setting a record for October. In addition to scoring WB its biggest international openings in the U.K. ($14.8m) and Russia ($10m), Joker emerged as the biggest October debut of all time in 21 different markets globally.

BIGGEST DC OPENING SINCE 2017

After coming just short of Justice League’s $93.8m opening, Joker topped DC’s 2018 release Aquaman ($67.8m) and 2019 release Shazam! ($53.5m).

OCTOBER’S LARGEST WORLDWIDE LAUNCH OF ALL TIME

Joker’s $247m global launch topped Venom’s $207.3, giving it October’s largest worldwide launch of all time.

FOURTH-BEST DOMESTIC OPENING WEEKEND FOR AN R-RATED MOVIE

Joker ($96.2m) comes in fourth, behind only Deadpool ($132.4m), Deadpool 2 ($125.5), and IT ($123.4m). Joker is followed by The Matrix Reloaded ($91.8m) and September’s IT: CHAPTER TWO ($91.1m).

WB’S BEST DOMESTIC OPENING SINCE 2017

IT remains Warner Bros.’ highest opening in recent years at $123.4m, itself followed by Justice League ($93.8m) in November 2017. For comparison, WB’s domestic openings for its most notable releases of 2019 include Shazam! ($53.5m), The Curse of La Llorona ($26.3m), Pokemon: Detective Pikachu ($54.3m), Godzilla: King of the Monsters ($47.7m), Shaft ($8.9m), Annabelle Comes Home ($20.2m) and IT CHAPTER TWO ($91m).

OCTOBER’S WIDEST RELEASE DOMESTICALLY

Joker screened in 4,374 theaters, narrowly beating Venom’s 4,350 screens.

BIGGEST IMAX OCTOBER OPENING AND SECOND-BEST FALL OPENING

Joker took in a record-setting $9 million in IMAX ticket sales, the largest for October, and won the second-best fall opening. Warner Bros.’ IT, released in September 2017, remains the largest fall opening at $123.4m.

CAREER-BEST STARTS FOR TODD PHILLIPS, JOAQUIN PHOENIX AND ROBERT DE NIRO

Joker became Phillips’ biggest opening when it topped 2011’s The Hangover Part II ($85.9m). For Phoenix, this is his biggest opening since the M. Night Shyamalan-directed Signs ($60.1m) in 2002; for De Niro, Joker more than doubled his previous biggest opening, 2004’s Meet the Fockers ($46.1m).
 

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You mean not sticking to a formula? Aint no rule in Hollywood making money. :comeon:
Being greedy and trying to “make money” is the main reason these nikkas have been fukking up with DC and fans in the first place:gucci:

did you not read what dude posted? Warner Bros. Had no faith in this film because it was “Dark”, thats why they gave it a shyt budget and said it wasn’t part of the DCEU.

Leto had every right to-be pissed... he was promised shyt for doing The Joker for Suicide Squad and they fukked him during that movie and fukked him again with this one.

regardless, no one thought this would be a success or classic movie. Now Warner Bros is scrambling for checks
 

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Being greedy and trying to “make money” is the main reason these nikkas have been fukking up with DC and fans in the first place:gucci:

did you not read what dude posted? Warner Bros. Had no faith in this film because it was “Dark”, thats why they gave it a shyt budget and said it wasn’t part of the DCEU.

Leto had every right to-be pissed... he was promised shyt for doing The Joker for Suicide Squad and they fukked him during that movie and fukked him again with this one.

regardless, no one thought this would be a success or classic movie. Now Warner Bros is scrambling for checks

A movie starring Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker was never gonna fail. :what:
 

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A movie starring Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker was never gonna fail. :what:
you know Leto actually has an Oscar... right:what:


And did you read again... Warner Bros. Thought it was going to fail... THEY thought that, thats why THEY gave it a shytty budget. THEY didn’t like the idea of a Rated R comic book movie that wasn’t “hip and fun”... its why they’ve fukked up every DC movie damn near.

Trying to ride waves instead of stay in the lane that got them there (Dark knoght, Man of Steel, The Watchmen, etc.)
 
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