Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

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why would they cut the footage if it was good?
Because WB was interfering in a lot of DC's shyt.

'Suicide Squad's' Secret Drama: Rushed Production, Competing Cuts, High Anxiety
A key concern for Warners executives was that Suicide Squad didn't deliver on the fun, edgy tone promised in the strong teaser trailer for the film. So while Ayer pursued his original vision, Warners set about working on a different cut, with an assist from Trailer Park, the company that had made the teaser.
They hired a company that puts together trailers to edit the film.
 

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I ain't seen the movie yet but I will just so I can come back and bytch

But yea that ain't the Joker to me

Yeah, per The Brave and The Bold there are many interpretations but this ain't it

Dude crying and pouting at the host like a whiny teenager

I'm not saying it's a bad movie, bit it's bad Joker movie. Ironic too because the reason it's getting so much praise is because it's a 'cinema' quality comic book movie influenced by an old Martin Scorcese film
So you haven't seen the movie but it's a bad Joker movie:unimpressed:

There are many interpretations but the interpretation you haven't seen is a bad interpretation:unimpressed:

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I mean, I can understand Leto's POV.

Dude gets to play a character that always has people anticipating the performance. The studio cuts a bunch of his shyt, then green lights a movie where someone else is going to be playing the same character. Why wouldn't he have the:mjtf:

exactly

dude barely got a shot. They fukked up the Suicide Squad movie so bad, trying to make it “lighter” and “funnier” like GOTG when they could’ve just left the movie alone and left Letos scenes stay


it wasn’t Leto’s fault imo... dude can act we just saw a watered down Joker that the studio wanted (an obsessed Joker chasing Harley?). On top of that, they’re still making movies with Margret Robbie as Harley Quinn and another Suicide Squad (with her in it) like his Joker didn’t exist.

that Harley Quinn movie gonna be ass too. It’s just a female SS
 

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I'm talking about the Jared Leto footage, if it was so good why would the studio cut it?
Because it was probably “too dark”.

Best thing about this Joker movie is that it’s rated R. Warner Brothers execs was so caught up in chasing the success of Marvels PG-13 movies that they didn’t want a dark Gotham or DC universe when DC has ALWAYS been darker.

Leto was slapping Robbie around in some scenes they were shooting with him. They didn’t want to put a woman abusive Joker out there, despite him beating her ass regularly in the comics. Especially not Robbie because so many young white girls look up to the character.

The movie was basically about her, not really about the Suicide Squad. They reshot everything. Deadshot, Harley Quinn, and Joker were literally the best thing about the movies. Jared Leto only had like 5 minutes worth of screen time.
 

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I'm talking about the Jared Leto footage, if it was so good why would the studio cut it?
For the same reason Captain Boomerang gave the Squad the :pacspit: then showed up at the end of the movie with no explanation

For the same reason almost the first 30+ minutes of the movie had a loud ass song on top of it in an attempt to make the movie lighter and more like GOTG, even though the music in GOTG was part of the plot

The people in charge didn't know what the fukk they were doing.

Like @O.T.I.S. posted, the original cut had Joker being abusive as fukk towards Harley.

This was one of the first images we got from the production

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The scene where Joker "saves" Harley by pushing her out of the helicopter was different in the original cut, where he pushes her out to kill her. A lot of his shyt didn't match the lighter tone the studio wanted so it was cut.
 

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He's annoying! The move he was in was whack anyway!

Plus to top it all off I dont even understand why he is mad. It's not like the joker he was is null and void but the one Phoenix played was in a different universe set in another point in time it seems. He could have just shut the fukk up and kept making that DC money but too bad, his loss!
 
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