Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

[kwazzy100]

Heath Ledger’s Joker was so overrated. Ppl overrate it because he died right after he filmed it. All he did was stutter n flap around for 2 hours.

Tbf, it was WAY out of Heath's league. This is the dude that in Brokeback Mountain and A Knights Tale. Jack Nicholson's Joker was alright, but a little bit cartoonish. In the Dark Knight, the Joker was more 3 dimensional and had more depth. In Today's time, The Dark Knight was one of the first superhero films where we see and understand the perspective of the villain. That's why people loved it.

 

[Ill-Yaz]

Watched it last night

Joaquin killed it. You will struggle to find a better performance as an actor in the history of cinema

I just wish people would stop with their theories. What was real, what was fake etc.

Just take the movie as it fukin is.

Whats wrong with watching and accepting the movie literally as it shown?

Dumb b*stards

 

[Ill-Yaz]

Those who say there are better performances than Joaquins name them.

Bear in mind, Joaquin showed a wide range of emotions in his performance

If your choice lacks this then Im gonna tell u to gtfoh

Popular performances like alonzo in training day and vito corleone are automatically disregarded for this reason

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Heath Ledger’s Joker was so overrated. Ppl overrate it because he died right after he filmed it. All he did was stutter n flap around for 2 hours.

On the real, I came out of the midnight showing of The Dark Knight being more impressed with Dent/Two Face.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Tbf, it was WAY out of Heath's league. This is the dude that in Brokeback Mountain and A Knights Tale. Jack Nicholson's Joker was alright, but a little bit cartoonish. In the Dark Knight, the Joker was more 3 dimensional and had more depth. In Today's time, The Dark Knight was one of the first superhero films where we see and understand the perspective of the villain. That's why people loved it.

I like that each Joker portrayal is different. It's like in the comics when a new writer and artist takes over.

I think Leto's Joker has potential (didn't have a problem with him in Suicide Squad) if you get him in a solid movie but I don't think people are willing to give him a chance, unfortunately.

 

[blankstairz]

Great movie.

Excellent performance by Joaquin.


The score was

Spoiler

Joker's "girlfriend".

The actress playing his mother played her character well too.


Breh in the medical records department after realizing Joker was the son in the report.

Breh: Sorry, I can't let you have this report.

Entertained throughout the entire movie.

DC does it again.

It goes to show that this is they way for DC.

There is quality material, characters out there for them to use, where stand alone films are more than suffice.

As far as the Joker comparisons, there really isn't one.

Jack's was solid.

Leto's was beyond

Part of Ledger's version was the mystery, the unknown background about Joker. He was more of a court jester. Cool performance no doubt. Ledger did his thing. But there really wasn't more to the character.

Joaquin's performance was a roller-coaster ride. Granted, this is an origin story,and Joaquin had a bigger palette to work with compared to Ledger. Joaquin did the damn thing.

 

[Brian O'Conner]

After a second serving, I have to increase my rating on this...joker is a masterpiece. a masterclass work by the director and actor

because I saw an interview with JP and he said after the movie his family had an argument on what it was about and asked him and he said its whatever you want it to be

the genius of the film is it is left up to the audience to decide what is real or not so every person can have a different take on the film and not be wrong, and that is exactly the essence of what joker is
to be able to execute that perfectly is hard to do, for any film period

idk know what is real tbh, the only thing im sure of is when he was laughing at the end of the movie, was because bruce waynes parents died bc of jokers actions. they showed the clip of wayne standing alone in the alley while joker was laughing so it must mean something

 

[blankstairz]

After a second serving, I have to increase my rating on this...joker is a masterpiece. a masterclass work by the director and actor

because I saw an interview with JP and he said after the movie his family had an argument on what it was about and asked him and he said its whatever you want it to be

the genius of the film is it is left up to the audience to decide what is real or not so every person can have a different take on the film and not be wrong, and that is exactly the essence of what joker is
to be able to execute that perfectly is hard to do, for any film period

idk know what is real tbh, the only thing im sure of is when he was laughing at the end of the movie, was because bruce waynes parents died bc of jokers actions. they showed the clip of wayne standing alone in the alley while joker was laughing so it must mean something

It probably didn't mean anything.

 

[Brian O'Conner]

It probably didn't mean anything.

Phillips said. "You don’t really know. His last line in the movie is, ‘You wouldn’t get it.’ There’s a lot going on in there that’s interesting." Phillips offered up one more interesting tidbit about JOKER's conclusion in regards to Arthur's laugh. Throughout the film, Arthur launches into uncontrollable fits of laughter, but Phillips says that the laugh which the character lets out in the final moments of the film is different from all the rest. "That laugh in that scene is really the only time he laughs genuinely," Phillips said. "There are different laughs in the movie. There is the laugh from Arthur’s affliction and then there is his fake laugh when he’s trying to be ‘one of the people,’ which is my favorite laugh. But at the end, when he’s in the room at Arkham State Hospital, that’s his only genuine laugh in the movie."

 

[jwinfield]

I just wish people would stop with their theories. What was real, what was fake etc.

Just take the movie as it fukin is.

Whats wrong with watching and accepting the movie literally as it shown?

Dumb b*stards

The fukking writer/director said he purposely wrote and shot the film to be ambiguous and up to the audience's interpretation.

‘Joker’ ending explained: Director Todd Phillips on fan theories and open questions

As they leave the theater, audiences may be mulling over more than the film’s provocative portrait of an alienated loner pushed toward monstrous violence by an uncaring society on the brink of chaos. On a more fundamental level, they may be asking some basic questions about the film’s story — and whether there’s more to it than meets the eye.

Both Todd Phillips, who directed and co-wrote “Joker,” and Joaquin Phoenix, who stars as the disaffected rent-a-clown and would-be stand-up comic Arthur Fleck, say that was very much their intention.

“This movie requires a certain amount of participation from the audience,” Phoenix told The Times recently. “It’s up to you how you want to interpret it and experience it. It’s less you being kind of presented with the facts than you being presented with these possibilities.”

As the Joker says of his own history in Alan Moore and Brian Bolland‘s 1988 graphic novel “The Killing Joke” — a key inspiration for the “Joker” screenplay that depicted the character as a failed comedian — “I’m not exactly sure what it was. Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another... If I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice.”

Phillips and co-writer Scott Silver layered that ambiguity into “Joker” from the start, with Fleck a fundamentally unreliable narrator of his own turbulent story.

“There’s a lot of ways you could look at this movie,” Phillips said. “You could look at it and go, ‘This is just one of his multiple-choice stories. None of it happened.’ I don’t want to say what it is. But a lot of people I’ve shown it to have said, ‘Oh, I get it — he’s just made up a story. The whole movie is the joke. It’s this thing this guy in Arkham Asylum concocted. He might not even be the Joker.’ ”

“Maybe Joaquin’s character inspired the Joker,” Phillips said. “You don’t really know. His last line in the movie is, ‘You wouldn’t get it.’ There’s a lot going on in there that’s interesting.”

 

[Max.]

Heres a real person with the laughing disorder

 

[jwinfield]

Heres a real person with the laughing disorder

 

[BeachBum Unreal]

No

It wasn’t a definitive no

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

Just watched it again...

shyt is something else.

 

[Zero]

Great input. Heath Ledger’s performance is known to be one of the best of all time and one of my personal favorites. Joaquin outperformed him, plain and simple.

"Has there ever been a film performance better than this movie that just came out brehs? "

An idiotic take such as this doesn't deserve any input other than ridicule.

Joaquin did a fantastic job but how limited is your scope to ask such a question?