Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

[Sohh_lifted]

The movie was OK, not great. Joaquin killed it, so let's take him off the table. Everything else was between OK and good. The cinematography was excellent.

I think it these modern takes on Gotham and its grittiness, they really fail to emphasize how absurd the city is. Even here, it's stated but not enough. Gotham is like a Stephen King town. The city itself, has a dome of grime that engulfs it. It creates different levels of madness. Only TDK and Burton's have shown that, but only Burton's was the city a character. The movie itself, is a predictable mashup of Taxi Driver and Falling Down, moreso Taxi Driver, because the fun element of Falling Down is absent. The movie is a drag.

They should've went 80's over-the-top feel. Only one scene has that. Overall, it's about a 7-7.5.

the opening scene really captures that feeling.

 

[Yessir_Araphat]

Honesty this didn't even feel like a comic book movie. It was more like a Tragedy

not a tragedy, a comedy

 

[Jimmy ValenTime]

Good not great


Best parts shots, framing and camera work

Love how they used the bronx all the apartment stuff and stairs is south bronx

Phoniex really brings it


the script is kind of trite and boring the back half gets cliche

 

[Jax]

Movie was great and Joaquin even better. I don't remember the last time I've seen such a great performance, maybe never.
I'm sorry, but he just shytted on Heath's performance

 

[Jax]

So once again, bytch ass critics were trying to make a name and career of this movie by saying bad things about it, never trust these hoes.

 

[Carlton Banks]

Its a okay movie, but it does everything I hate with modern movies.
It tries to humanize a piece of shyt. SMH.
Now days you can't ever have a person simply be a miserable piece of shyt, they have to try to make it "reasonable" for the person to be how they are.
this movie is a failure to me, especially since its a one off elsewhere type story.

Oh well

Thank you!

 

[Jimmy ValenTime]

I need this joker to face off against a batman!

I want a riddler movie in this universe

 

[Jimmy ValenTime]

I'm really glad Marvel took a risk with Deadpool being an R rated flick instead of the typical PG-13.

I feel DC could revisit the Batman franchise but from a deeper, darker, grittier angle.

That was fox

We will Never get a deadpool or logan from disney sadly

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

That was fox

We will Never get a deadpool or logan from disney sadly

What's so sad? Deadpool and Logan were done right. Disney has their lane and those type of flicks ain't their forte.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

I'm sorry, but he just shytted on Heath's performance

 

[Jax]

It was that good.

 

[Makavalli]

I haven't read this thread yet but has anyone noticed??

Spoiler

That everyone that Joker tried to open up to emotionally was black....
The both of his therapists were black.
The woman he had a fantasy for was black.
The clerk at Arkumn Hospital that he briefly opened up to was black.

I wonder what was the message in that. It's almost like they were trying to say black people have the ability or responsibility to save failing white men... idk..

?/5

Great point here. I think it low key acknowledge that we are the ones that have dealt with real shyt with slavery racism poverty police brutality etc but still can find joy in our lives. It hardens us thats why if u see someone flipping out over some light shyt our response is “thats it”

Subconsciously joker is looking at them and thinking “hey u got an education,good job, kid, etc despite being black so if my white ass do what u do with my privilege i should be good too right?!”

 

[Jimmy ValenTime]

What's so sad? Deadpool and Logan were done right. Disney has their lane and those type of flicks ain't their forte.

Now that disney has most of their assets the tone wont contrast

So we wont get those style of movies any more

Am glad sony has spiderman because while sometimes we get crap we also get the ps4 game and spiderverse

 

[Jimmy ValenTime]

I think the joker film was tasteful witha race and gender dynamics much more tasteful then I anticipated

In real life joker probably would have targeted the people he seek help from

Or other victims of gotham


Am glad he went after the powerful

 

[jwinfield]

Spoiler

I took it as she forged it with her delusions of grandeur. I think the physical/mental abuse Arthur suffered was very real, which explains his current state. I think his mom was just a nut.

Not definitive but

Spoiler

'Joker' Actor Brett Cullen on Thomas Wayne's Secret

What was the relationship in your mind between Thomas Wayne and Arthur’s mother?

I asked Todd how Thomas Wayne would’ve know Arthur’s mother. The backstory was that Arthur’s mother had worked for Thomas in his home, and she was a beautiful woman who Thomas was attracted to and it led to a physical relationship. Later in life, she’s in and out of mental institutions. And in my mind, Thomas Wayne put her there.

What I like about the film is that it’s about real people with real faults who make mistakes. Some are done out of protection, like moving Arthur and his mother out of the picture.