Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

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I'm with you except the clown coworker... Breh heard you got beat up and slid you a fully loaded hammer and said "fukk it, pay me some other time"


Maaaaaaaaaaan your best friends ain't willing to hand over their gun and tell you to shoot nikkas. And for that............ The Joker gonna scream out loud that old dude gave him the gun... nikka out here snitching. Trying to put him down with accessory to 3 murders.

But cool.... Dude STILL doesn't snitch, or beat him up, or try to kill him. Just shows up at the crib and wants to get the gun back. Go on killing and do whatever, just leave me out of it... NOPE!!!


Joker was a bytch for that
 

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Amazing film. Hope the cinematography team gets a raise after this one. They brought Gotham to life in a way no one has ever done before. The graffiti on the train, trash on the streets and overall rudeness of people walking on the streets brought be back to 1980s NYC. I honestly would love to see more of this Gotham incorporated somewhere else..
 

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Watched this in Dolby last night and I was engaged the entire time. Great film and performance by Phoenix.


I'm with you except the clown coworker... Breh heard you got beat up and slid you a fully loaded hammer and said "fukk it, pay me some other time"


Maaaaaaaaaaan your best friends ain't willing to hand over their gun and tell you to shoot nikkas. And for that............ The Joker gonna scream out loud that old dude gave him the gun... nikka out here snitching. Trying to put him down with accessory to 3 murders.

But cool.... Dude STILL doesn't snitch, or beat him up, or try to kill him. Just shows up at the crib and wants to get the gun back. Go on killing and do whatever, just leave me out of it... NOPE!!!


Joker was a bytch for that

"I thought that clown dude set him up to get fired by giving Authur that gun knowing he’ll have it on his person to feel safe. I thought the boss said on the phone (to Arthur) he was told that he brought the gun with him to show off to them other clowns. "
 

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man I’m watching the local news and they are actually covering this shyt like the movie is some concern and talking about increased police presence

how did the conversation about this movie get to this point? its muddling how people feel about it too from what I can see from a review standpoint

shyt is kinda ridiculous

I mean, the DoD did literally issue warnings about threats made on screenings of the movie...
 

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Watched this in Dolby last night and I was engaged the entire time. Great film and performance by Phoenix.




"I thought that clown dude set him up to get fired by giving Authur that gun knowing he’ll have it on his person to feel safe. I thought the boss said on the phone (to Arthur) he was told that he brought the gun with him to show off to them other clowns. "


Yea he did and thats why he got fired. I think fatboy had good intentions but once he got the complaint at the hospital he figured let me snitch on arthur before he say he got it from me

:yeshrug:
 

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I'm with you except the clown coworker... Breh heard you got beat up and slid you a fully loaded hammer and said "fukk it, pay me some other time"


Maaaaaaaaaaan your best friends ain't willing to hand over their gun and tell you to shoot nikkas. And for that............ The Joker gonna scream out loud that old dude gave him the gun... nikka out here snitching. Trying to put him down with accessory to 3 murders.

But cool.... Dude STILL doesn't snitch, or beat him up, or try to kill him. Just shows up at the crib and wants to get the gun back. Go on killing and do whatever, just leave me out of it... NOPE!!!


Joker was a bytch for that
that clown coworker gave him the gun then went and told the supervisor Arthur tried to buy a gun from him, that’s what was said over the phone when he got fired
 

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The biggest supporters on here dont never seem to be seeing these shyts.

:deadmanny:

Bout to take my kid to my parents crib and peep this shyt with my girls brother.


OUTA HERE!!!!!
 

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Saw it yesterday, I liked it very much, I think the cirtics who interpreted this as a communist propaganda or a movie glorifying revenge vigilantism missed the point. It's definitely not black and white nor it should be but when the movie was finished I didn't have the feeling at all that this would encourage anybody to anything. It just deals with current but also forever existing societal problems and shows the consequences of a fukked up system which threats people on the periphery of it as pariahs and freaks, neglecting support from them.

Yes there is a fair amount of criticism toward neoliberalism and any kind of ideology what thinks governmental/state support to the treatment of people like Arhur in the movie is negligible and basically if they create a good economic environment for the middle class/rich every problems will be solved but it doesn't opposes communism as a solution to that. It is bleak cause it doesn't really give an alternative of how the system could be better apart from the single fact that showing more support and care toward people like Arthur or even for all the "clown protestors" would be better but I didn't find this a problem. These are ever existing problems you can't expect a movie to just show a solution to them. That doesn't make the very presentation of these problems inadequate. It shows what surely DON'T do and that's enough imo.

Also the fear about "incel violence" was clearly a moral panic BS from people who haven't even watched the movie just tried to be smart based on trailers and second hand information. Hatred toward women isn't even present in the movie like that, it is centered around mental health and the fukked up way how the system handle people with mental health problems, Arhur's problems with get himself someone are present but they are a marginal part of the story as opposed to some of his other problems imo and they are never presented as some general hatred toward women.
 

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I think this is one of the things that is most uncomfortable about this movie. Does Arthur deserve sympathy? Yes. Did anyone in this movie deserve to die (even the bullies)? No. But especially the people just doing their job and living their lives. Yet Arthur justifies killing all of them and some audience members may even empathize with his rationale. It's really scary that killing people can be empathized with. Where it crosses into incel territory for me is the scapegoating of society for a personal decision to end people. And of course you'll never see mental illness or empathy of this scale being given to a black killer. There is a fervor to embrace mental illness as a justification and try to sympathize when the person is a white male that's not given to anyone else. I find that most disturbing.
I'm with you except the clown coworker... Breh heard you got beat up and slid you a fully loaded hammer and said "fukk it, pay me some other time"


Maaaaaaaaaaan your best friends ain't willing to hand over their gun and tell you to shoot nikkas. And for that............ The Joker gonna scream out loud that old dude gave him the gun... nikka out here snitching. Trying to put him down with accessory to 3 murders.

But cool.... Dude STILL doesn't snitch, or beat him up, or try to kill him. Just shows up at the crib and wants to get the gun back. Go on killing and do whatever, just leave me out of it... NOPE!!!


Joker was a bytch for that
his coworker was the one who snitched on joker first
 

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Also it shows how much you can't trust even in professional critics nowadays that this movie has the same score on Metacritic and RT (by critics) as some of the more average/bad MCU movies. I even saw an article which said DC is struggling without Zack Snyder. The hell with that :camby: Yes it's subjective at the end of the day but however I liked 300 and Watchmen (both are pretty much the movie replica of their comic counterparts sans the ending of Watchmen), Zack Snyder is a pretty one beat director who couldn't put together an original story like this if his life would depend on it.
 
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