Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

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CreepyMcCreeperson said:
Overall, I thought it was excellent. And I could tell the theater wanted to laugh at certain parts, but they felt they couldn’t.
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I got that feeling as well. My wife and I didn't give a fukk there were quite a few parts where we Pac laughed. The midget cowering in the corner had me rolling :russ:
 
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ogc163 said:
I think Phillip's comments may lead to some bias by some liberals who are aware of the comments he made. Just finished listening to a review on Slate, and you can tell his comments are influencing their opinions. Given the typical background of movie critics those comments seem to be biting him in the ass with that crowd.

Personally whenever I've seen documentaries on NYC in the late 70's and 80's I'm consistently surprised people didn't revolt against the elite. Especially when you take into consideration the elite in NYC are much more "accessible" for lack of a better word. And so the way the crowd reacted is not hamfisted or over simplified when you take into consideration the time period the film is set in.

Overall the film was great imo, I came in with low expectations. Phoenix was amazing, the music was surprisingly on point.

I've read reviews complaining about nihilism and a lack of hope, but the Joker's character has always been about embodying anarchy and exposing the flaws of shallow but prevalent social systems and norms. It's as though some critics wanted a highly noble anti-hero, who deviates from the system in some ways but still operates within it on its terms.
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All those critics wanted was a self-loathing galvanizing incel so they could tweet and write clickbait think pieces validating their bullshyt fear-mongering over "Joker will cause an INCEL CIVIL WAR MASSACRE IN THE STREETS OF EVERY CITY WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO ASDLAJDASLDJS" that they were all parroting before 99% of them had seen even a single frame of the film. Now that it's widely available and everyone's seen it, and it's painfully obvious to anyone with a functioning brain and pair of eyes that this Joker isn't, and never was even hinted at, being close to some incel iconography for people like that to rally around in real life, they have to move the goalposts and move the outrage to "This movie is so bleak and nihilistic and violent and devoid of joy or happiness, it doesn't say anything about anything" now that their pre-release concern trolling has been exposed as nothing but. Like this ain't a motherfukking JOKER ORIGIN STORY and that violence and nihilism don't come with the damn territory in spades :mindblown:

Media in 2019 exists not to inform or critique but solely to bait an intrinsic reaction out of you psychologically so you click on it and provide the conglomerate funding and writing it with more ad revenue and domain traffic. Trying to engage or respond to it in legitimate good faith as if it was written or intended to cultivate such discussion like Phillips did is a trap, and such a mistake can and will be weaponized against you for the sake of more shallow baiting for hits and ad revenue from the general public; usually in the form of the kind of parroted cut copy reviews talking along the same lines of dismissal you're seeing now. I don't particularly like or care about Phillips personally so I can't say "hate it had to be him", but it's gross to watch play out in real time all the same :scust:
 
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