Official "Glass" Thread (Trailer Out Now)

[dangerranger]

As a huge fan of unbreakable and split this movie was the biggest disappointment and I’ve had lots of time to talk about it and mull over every sh*t thing that was in there.

For now I will say this no way in hell the last act makes any kind of sense. The plan was and always was to end up at the Osaka tower. Elijah’s plan to expose things was clearly a last minute attempt to create a crazy twist to make him seem like the ultimate mastermind.

It was last minute because they were not supposed to die at the asylum. This happened purely by accident because Joseph showed up and told Kevin the truth. This had nothing to do with Elijah’s plan. In fact Elijah had no idea what Joseph was doing and that he would show up. The beast was not supposed to find out what Elijah did.

In fact, Elijah even left a post it note for the doctor to see that they were going to the Osaka tower.

So ultimately this whole bs explanation that Elijah planned to let the whole world through the videos was trash because he set things up to have the final fight at the Osaka tower.

Not to mention he didn’t even find out who the beast was until this movie when he looked through his files the day before the procedure. That’s when he also found out about the Osaka tower launch.

There are too many blatant inconsistencies to say this was great or even good writing. It’s glaring plot holes in this film and these that I just mentioned are the first of many.

 

[Jello Biafra]

I didn’t really buy the scene where she was convincing them they didn’t have powers. You telling this dude you don’t think he has super strength, but you got him chained to the floor and behind a steel vault door. Dude has 15+ years of never being injured while throwing dudes through walls. And she managed to erase that by saying nah, even though we are certainly keeping you captive like we think you have super strength.

The chains on Dunn bothered me too. I was thinking the same thing...if you want to convince him he aint super-strong then putting him in chains like he's The Hulk is not the best way to go about it.

 

[gluvnast]

Twist #1 was hinted at if you think about the situation with the doctor and start questioning who she is, what she is doing, how she is actually doing it and who gave her the authority to do it at all.
Even her first appearance hints at there being something more to her than what we were shown.

And Twist #2 shouldn't have been a surprise for anyone who saw Unbreakable or paid attention to how the character behind it had been described all through this movie. Add to it the comments made about steps he took that were assumed to be mistakes and it was obvious that something else was going to be revealed.

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Also you have to take into account that Glass had begun doubting himself just like Kevin and Dunn ended up doubting themselves thanks to the doctor. Glass even admitted as much. So it wasn't like he had been plotting this thing for years...he almost got convinced that he was just a prettty smart dude with a bone disease.

Spoiler: about Mr. Glass

Exactly, it was the fact of learning he inadvertently created The Horde as well gave him satisfaction and confirmation that he wasn't a mistake.

 

[gluvnast]

I didn’t really buy the scene where she was convincing them they didn’t have powers. You telling this dude you don’t think he has super strength, but you got him chained to the floor and behind a steel vault door. Dude has 15+ years of never being injured while throwing dudes through walls. And she managed to erase that by saying nah, even though we are certainly keeping you captive like we think you have super strength.

Plus there's also a bit of an ambiguity of if she's really right still... especially the fact that

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David Dunn with all that super strength, still was powerful enough to break the water tank while in it, but gets drowned by a fucckin' puddle. Makes you wonder if it's REALLY been all in his head if that's how easily he can be defeated.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Plus there's also a bit of an ambiguity of if she's really right still... especially the fact that

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David Dunn with all that super strength, still was powerful enough to break the water tank while in it, but gets drowned by a fucckin' puddle. Makes you wonder if it's REALLY been all in his head if that's how easily he can be defeated.

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I took like Dunn was like the Martian Manhunter is with fire. It is his one weakness but not because it actually weakens him like Kryptonite does Superman but because of a past trauma involving fire he psychologically allows it to weaken him. So Dunn was the same way due to his almost drowning.

 

[Sex Luthor]

I doubt it would be, unless you want it to be the prequel to Kick-Ass. But it is the perfect bookend to Unbreakable.

I didn't want to say too much about the end but it could be a spin off like hero's or something

 

[nieman]

As a huge fan of unbreakable and split this movie was the biggest disappointment and I’ve had lots of time to talk about it and mull over every sh*t thing that was in there.

For now I will say this no way in hell the last act makes any kind of sense. The plan was and always was to end up at the Osaka tower. Elijah’s plan to expose things was clearly a last minute attempt to create a crazy twist to make him seem like the ultimate mastermind.

It was last minute because they were not supposed to die at the asylum. This happened purely by accident because Joseph showed up and told Kevin the truth. This had nothing to do with Elijah’s plan. In fact Elijah had no idea what Joseph was doing and that he would show up. The beast was not supposed to find out what Elijah did.

In fact, Elijah even left a post it note for the doctor to see that they were going to the Osaka tower.

So ultimately this whole bs explanation that Elijah planned to let the whole world through the videos was trash because he set things up to have the final fight at the Osaka tower.

Not to mention he didn’t even find out who the beast was until this movie when he looked through his files the day before the procedure. That’s when he also found out about the Osaka tower launch.

There are too many blatant inconsistencies to say this was great or even good writing. It’s glaring plot holes in this film and these that I just mentioned are the first of many.

You do realize the doc

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even said that him going through the basement bought them (security) some time. Whether or not he was going to the tower was irrelevant because his entire plan since Unbreakable was always to expose superheroes. He achieved this by using the cameras at the facility. Besides, ,you have to ask the question, how was he ever gonna get to the tower...and if he was, why even contact David why he was still there? He was clearly taking his time. As for the doc, her schtick was part containment and part ruse. She was BSing them

I thought this movie was great and the perfect ending to it all. Every weakness in all 3 movies was came full circle, and the movie ended the only way it could have. I will say that M. Night can't film action scenes at all, so that did take away from parts of it, but everything else was great. And James McAvoy is on his A game here. I'm starting to think that most missed the point of Unbreakable.

 

[gluvnast]

You do realize the doc

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even said that him going through the basement bought them (security) some time. Whether or not he was going to the tower was irrelevant because his entire plan since Unbreakable was always to expose superheroes. He achieved this by using the cameras at the facility. Besides, ,you have to ask the question, how was he ever gonna get to the tower...and if he was, why even contact David why he was still there? He was clearly taking his time. As for the doc, her schtick was part containment and part ruse. She was BSing them

I thought this movie was great and the perfect ending to it all. Every weakness in all 3 movies was came full circle, and the movie ended the only way it could have. I will say that M. Night can't film action scenes at all, so that did take away from parts of it, but everything else was great. And James McAvoy is on his A game here. I'm starting to think that most missed the point of Unbreakable.

I feel they missed the point as well OR came in with their own expectations instead of allowing M. Night tell and conclude his story how he saw fit.

 

[NYChase718]

You do realize the doc

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even said that him going through the basement bought them (security) some time. Whether or not he was going to the tower was irrelevant because his entire plan since Unbreakable was always to expose superheroes. He achieved this by using the cameras at the facility. Besides, ,you have to ask the question, how was he ever gonna get to the tower...and if he was, why even contact David why he was still there? He was clearly taking his time. As for the doc, her schtick was part containment and part ruse. She was BSing them

I thought this movie was great and the perfect ending to it all. Every weakness in all 3 movies was came full circle, and the movie ended the only way it could have. I will say that M. Night can't film action scenes at all, so that did take away from parts of it, but everything else was great. And James McAvoy is on his A game here. I'm starting to think that most missed the point of Unbreakable.

Cosign 100%

 

[NYChase718]

Also the M night cameo in this movie was funny
The connection to his untouchable appearance

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Just left this.... wow.... a lot to process.... but will share my thoughts over the next few days

Martha

 

[twan83]

You do realize the doc

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even said that him going through the basement bought them (security) some time. Whether or not he was going to the tower was irrelevant because his entire plan since Unbreakable was always to expose superheroes. He achieved this by using the cameras at the facility. Besides, ,you have to ask the question, how was he ever gonna get to the tower...and if he was, why even contact David why he was still there? He was clearly taking his time. As for the doc, her schtick was part containment and part ruse. She was BSing them

I thought this movie was great and the perfect ending to it all. Every weakness in all 3 movies was came full circle, and the movie ended the only way it could have. I will say that M. Night can't film action scenes at all, so that did take away from parts of it, but everything else was great. And James McAvoy is on his A game here. I'm starting to think that most missed the point of Unbreakable.

Perfect breakdown and how I saw it

 

[dangerranger]

You do realize the doc

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even said that him going through the basement bought them (security) some time. Whether or not he was going to the tower was irrelevant because his entire plan since Unbreakable was always to expose superheroes. He achieved this by using the cameras at the facility. Besides, ,you have to ask the question, how was he ever gonna get to the tower...and if he was, why even contact David why he was still there? He was clearly taking his time. As for the doc, her schtick was part containment and part ruse. She was BSing them

I thought this movie was great and the perfect ending to it all. Every weakness in all 3 movies was came full circle, and the movie ended the only way it could have. I will say that M. Night can't film action scenes at all, so that did take away from parts of it, but everything else was great. And James McAvoy is on his A game here. I'm starting to think that most missed the point of Unbreakable.

Elijah’s plan since unbreakable was to find his opposite and prove he was not a mistake. He believed in superheroes but he was never out to expose them to the world otherwise he would have outed David in unbreakable. He helped David become who he needed to become. It was never his mission to show the world about superheroes and villains. Again he only found out about the beast at the facility so it makes no sense to say this was his plan all along because it was pure coincidence that they ended up at the same facility. Like I said before his plan was for them to have a fight at the Osaka tower. It couldn’t have been apart of the plan to die at the facility because he only found out about the Osaka tower the day before. And the most important part of all, he never intended for the Beast to find out the truth at the facility. It was because Joseph who was outside of Elijah’s plan showed up and ruined everything. Also this whole thing about Elijah not being a mistake is redundant because he knew that from unbreakable. He proved it already.

Elijah’s plan was literally cooked up the night before and we’re trying to pass this off as it was his master plan all along. A plan that wouldn’t have happened until three days ago when David and the Beast were captured?

They added stuff at the last minute to try and make it all make sense but when you break it down it just doesn’t.

 

[gluvnast]

Elijah’s plan since unbreakable was to find his opposite and prove he was not a mistake. He believed in superheroes but he was never out to expose them to the world otherwise he would have outed David in unbreakable. He helped David become who he needed to become. It was never his mission to show the world about superheroes and villains. Again he only found out about the beast at the facility so it makes no sense to say this was his plan all along because it was pure coincidence that they ended up at the same facility. Like I said before his plan was for them to have a fight at the Osaka tower. It couldn’t have been apart of the plan to die at the facility because he only found out about the Osaka tower the day before. And the most important part of all, he never intended for the Beast to find out the truth at the facility. It was because Joseph who was outside of Elijah’s plan showed up and ruined everything. Also this whole thing about Elijah not being a mistake is redundant because he knew that from unbreakable. He proved it already.

Elijah’s plan was literally cooked up the night before and we’re trying to pass this off as it was his master plan all along. A plan that wouldn’t have happened until three days ago when David and the Beast were captured?

They added stuff at the last minute to try and make it all make sense but when you break it down it just doesn’t.

Mr. Glass' ENTIRE point was to prove to himself that he wasn't a mistake. He not only stated that in Unbreakable, he said this again in THIS FILM. Between the whole 19 years, after proving to himself that superheroes exist, you really do not think his reasoning has evolved? Nor we do not know if he has or haven't ratted out David Dunn, nobody would of believed it anyway because he's been locked up in the criminally insane asylum. The two things we DO KNOW is that

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1. he still was having doubts and admitted as such, until he learned about Kevin and The Horde and 2. he figured out Dr. Staples ulterior motive which prompted him to do what he did by video record everything.

But his entire point that he wasn't no accident which was WHY it was important to him, not just to discover Dunn, but to put it out there that superheroes exist.

 

[Deltron]

I got the general gist of the film, but I'm sure little details went over my head since I never watched Unbreakable and Split. With that said, I thought the film was okay, there was a lot of telling instead of showing (possibly for people like my ass who ain't seen the other films, so I can't really fault them for that, since it is a sequel/follow up of sorts), I fukked with Glass' plan and how the asylum played right into it.

were the

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clover leaf tattoo people

in the previous films? That intrigued me