Official "Glass" Thread (Trailer Out Now)

[gluvnast]

The end looks like a set up for another movie or tv show. It's really open ended

I doubt it would be, unless you want it to be the prequel to Kick-Ass. But it is the perfect bookend to Unbreakable.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

OKAY

Spoiler

The movie is about Sarah Paulson's character, Dr. Staples, was able to capture both David Dunn and The Horde (McAvoy's character) and put them in the same insane asylum as Mr. Glass as you know from the trailers. Her agenda was to have them disbelieve that they are super-powered beings like in the comics. Her plan was to low-key lobotomize them with Mr. Glass being the first, but Mr. Glass while playing possum pretending he's already brain-dead already devised a plan to escape. He linked up with the Horde and convinced him that he was indeed a super-powered being and they're meet the next day to escape. Then he swapped glassed object from the operating machine so the lobotomy procedure would fail unbeknownst to Dr. Staples. That night Mr. Glass kills one of the medical security aides, freed The Horde, but prior to that, Mr. Glass hacked into the computer system and reworked all the video security cameras. He then went on the speaker mic to let David Dunn know that him and The Horde had escape and heading to the new tallest building in Philly to cause havoc and that Dunn have to use his superhuman strength to breakout the maximum secured steeled locked door in order to stop them and save the city. Then said his intention was for the entire world to know that superheroes to exist. Knowing from what Glass did in Unbreakable in doing such mass murder, Dunn was able to break himself free. Mr. Glass and The Horde went downward to the basement area where they are all visible and The Horde proceeded in killing off some of the guards while going through there. Meanwhile, Dunn's son, Mr. Glass's mother, Mrs. Price, and Casey from Split (who now has an affinity with The Horde because she's the only one who understands him) all met up at the asylum to try to prove to Dr. Staples that none of them are crazy and that superheroes are indeed for real. Dr. Staples have them some BS excuses, but then learn about them escaping the asylum. She alerted the police with strict instructions of none of them to make it out the premises. Dunn catches up with Mr. Glass and The Horde out on the parking lot area. As Dunn and The Horde start fighting, Mr. Glass was commentating speaking how it's like in the comics. Dunn's son, Casey and Mrs. Price comes out and spectated what's going on. The police comes in with body armor and shields and attempted to break it off between Dunn and The Horde. Dunn was able to push all of the police on him back into a container and locked them in while The Horde savagely was beaten the police that's on him to a pulp. Once they both taken care of the police, they were about to return back fighting. Mr. Glass tells The Horde that Dunn is water and he needs to toss Dunn into the water tank, but before The Horde was about to do that, Dunn's son intervened and said that Mr. Glass organized the train wreck that killed The Horde's father which inadvertently birthed The Horde's multiple personalities. The same train wreck that David Dunn was on. Mr. Glass was both shocked and pleased with this reveal as he saw it as not a coincidence but fate that he's responsible in the creation of these super powered beings. The Horde wasn't at all pleased because The Horde's whole purpose, especially the persona of THE BEAST, is to protect Kevin, the original host. And learning that it was Mr. Glass all along that was the cause of all of it, The Horde crushed Mr. Glass's shoulder (as a reminder, Glass' entire skeleton is brittle). Dunn intervened telling the Horde to stop which pleases Mr. Glass again in that it's the hero coming in to depend the villain cliché. The Horde proceeds to attack Dunn again, but not before he pushes real hard into Glass' chest and his entire chest caves in and he falls crushing more of his bones and begins to die from internal bleeding and a caved-in chest. The Horde tosses Dunn into the water tank and starting fighting him inside the tank. Dunn, while struggling was able to pound on the walls of the tank and the tank breaks. As he struggles to regain strength, the police comes through and starts slamming him into a puddle. The Horde was intervened by Casey who has the power of an empath and was able to get the original host, Kevin, back. Once Kevin was back, he was immediately shot by the police and he dies. The police is still slamming Dunn into the puddle. Dr. Staples told Dunn to reach out her hand like she was going to pull him off. He tries and once he touches her hand, he learned what was the first BIG TWIST, which is she was part of a secret society that's been going on for centuries, similar to The Court of Owls in Batman, and their whole purpose is trick the world that GODS don't exist. Therefore, if they ever encounter anyone that have abnormal abilities and believe they are superhuman in any way, they do whatever it takes to kill them off. Dr. Staples, intent was to originally be more humane and have them believe it's all in their heads, but because that failed, she ordered the police (which was actually hired security of the secret society) to kill them off. With this reveal, Dr. Staples proceeded for her police to drown Dunn in the puddle and Dunn dies from drowning. So, Mr. Glass, David Dunn, and The Horde are all dead. Which I presume is why people would be pissed. But that's not the end of the movie. The aftermath focuses on Dr. Staples. She tells all the employees, the security and so forth that everything is under control and back to normal. Justified why they were killed because of the lives of the guards that were killed and told them that none of what happened should be spoken about outside the asylum. Then she conducted a secret society meeting with her people explaining the situation and comforting their concerns of the risk of the reveal of superheroes existing among us. However, once she went back to the office, she realized that the video cameras were tampered, thus the 2nd twist. As I mentioned earlier before that Mr. Glass tampered with the security cameras. The whole reason was so that it can record EVERYTHING that occurred, the fight, the powers, everything. Then he had it downloaded it and sent to Dunn's son, his mother's, and Casey's email address. Dr. Staples, in shocked because Mr. Glass had all of this planned the whole time and knew he was going to die regardless. His whole intention was for the entire world to learn about the existence of superheroes and he knew all along about Dr. Staples. Dr. Staples, devastated because she knew that she's doomed from this about to be exposed. The movie ends with Dunn's son, Glass' mother, and Casey meeting at the same train station as where all of it originated and wait for the reaction of people as they sent it viral online. And it ends with them proud that people will soon learn that superheroes do exist and more should come forward instead of hiding.

so basically

Spoiler

the beginning is the end and the end is the beginning, viewers just didn't know it and I'm assuming don't care since this was the final trilogy.

definitely was a money grab.

 

[gluvnast]

This was garbage. The ending kills the entire movie. One part of the ending comes straight out of left field. The other super twist is blindingly obvious and undermines the first twist. And then you have to justify a ton of plot convinences to call it good story telling.

And how the hell does Bruce Willis’ weakness work? In unbreakable I took it to mean he could drown. And from all indications that’s about all it meant, he def fought a dude in unbreakable after falling in the pool. In glass it’s like Kryptonite. I’m seriously wondering how dude ever went in the rain.


They also really take lightly that Glass killed a train full of people. And that the Beast kidnapped and dismembered 2 girls in the first movie. Like that scene from the trailer when they’re all in the room, it makes no sense for Willis to be the chained up person.

Twist one isn't at all from left field. Especially when you have something similar in the Batman comics.

Spoiler

COURT OF OWLS

. The 2nd is a bit more obvious and should really be a twist at all since they outright told us not only throughout this film, and scenes happening during the 3rd act, but the entire premise of Unbreakable. You know it wasn't going to END the way that the original twist could of ended. Glass had an ulterior motive the whole time which was his entire life purpose since Unbreakable.

 

[gluvnast]

For a psych facility that's home to a serial killer and a mass murdering terrorist, that place had the worst fukking security. One dude at a time...and frequently not even that many

And we're supposed to buy that the doctor really had Dunn questioning himself? Like he hasn't been an invincible crime fighter for over a decade?

The security, I put that on Dr. Staples underestimating Mr. Glass. To which he played possum the entire time. But his patience and memorization of their habits and the entire blueprint is why it was easy or looked easy. Also, Dunn and The Horde couldn't possibly escape had it not been for Glass. Not to mention it's a moot point of how many guards become they can be taken out. In the basement, The Beast was taking on 4 at once without problems.

 

[T’Challa’s Heir]

Twist one isn't at all from left field. Especially when you have something similar in the Batman comics.

Spoiler

COURT OF OWLS

. The 2nd is a bit more obvious and should really be a twist at all since they outright told us not only throughout this film, and scenes happening during the 3rd act, but the entire premise of Unbreakable. You know it wasn't going to END the way that the original twist could of ended. Glass had an ulterior motive the whole time which was his entire life purpose since Unbreakable.

There was no hint of the first twist anywhere in the first 400+ minutes of these 3 movies. And given their stated purpose the events of this film don’t make any sense, in the sense they should have acted way earlier in the story.

And in terms of Glass’ ulterior motive; I don’t accept the premise that this was his endgame, especially with his search for his identity in unbreakable. And much like the other twist, he went about achieving it in the dumbest way possible. Let’s also not forget that they retconned him to Batman level genius in this movie. Dude was obviously smart in unbreakable, but it was no where near this.

 

[gluvnast]

so basically

Spoiler

the beginning is the end and the end is the beginning, viewers just didn't know it and I'm assuming don't care since this was the final trilogy.

definitely was a money grab.

Not that at all. And definitely not a money grab. A money grab would be your cliche super hero.

Also, it is not the beginning is the end and vice versa. The entire movie is linear. What I mean by bookend to Unbreakable is that Elijah Price aka Mr. Glass whole life agenda is to prove his life wasn't a "mistake", that it has a purpose and by the end of the movie his purpose was fulfilled.

 

[gluvnast]

There was no hint of the first twist anywhere in the first 400+ minutes of these 3 movies. And given their stated purpose the events of this film don’t make any sense, in the sense they should have acted way earlier in the story.

And in terms of Glass’ ulterior motive; I don’t accept the premise that this was his endgame, especially with his search for his identity in unbreakable. And much like the other twist, he went about achieving it in the dumbest way possible. Let’s also not forget that they retconned him to Batman level genius in this movie. Dude was obviously smart in unbreakable, but it was no where near this.

Was there SUPPOSED to be some kind of hint? And that hypocritical because you said the following is too predictable because it was hinted. So which do you want? Also, she spoke plain as day her 3-day purpose what to be. That had not changed and she didn't deceive anyone. It just exposes a deeper movement which so many comics and cartoons have.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

OKAY

Spoiler

The movie is about Sarah Paulson's character, Dr. Staples, was able to capture both David Dunn and The Horde (McAvoy's character) and put them in the same insane asylum as Mr. Glass as you know from the trailers. Her agenda was to have them disbelieve that they are super-powered beings like in the comics. Her plan was to low-key lobotomize them with Mr. Glass being the first, but Mr. Glass while playing possum pretending he's already brain-dead already devised a plan to escape. He linked up with the Horde and convinced him that he was indeed a super-powered being and they're meet the next day to escape. Then he swapped glassed object from the operating machine so the lobotomy procedure would fail unbeknownst to Dr. Staples. That night Mr. Glass kills one of the medical security aides, freed The Horde, but prior to that, Mr. Glass hacked into the computer system and reworked all the video security cameras. He then went on the speaker mic to let David Dunn know that him and The Horde had escape and heading to the new tallest building in Philly to cause havoc and that Dunn have to use his superhuman strength to breakout the maximum secured steeled locked door in order to stop them and save the city. Then said his intention was for the entire world to know that superheroes to exist. Knowing from what Glass did in Unbreakable in doing such mass murder, Dunn was able to break himself free. Mr. Glass and The Horde went downward to the basement area where they are all visible and The Horde proceeded in killing off some of the guards while going through there. Meanwhile, Dunn's son, Mr. Glass's mother, Mrs. Price, and Casey from Split (who now has an affinity with The Horde because she's the only one who understands him) all met up at the asylum to try to prove to Dr. Staples that none of them are crazy and that superheroes are indeed for real. Dr. Staples have them some BS excuses, but then learn about them escaping the asylum. She alerted the police with strict instructions of none of them to make it out the premises. Dunn catches up with Mr. Glass and The Horde out on the parking lot area. As Dunn and The Horde start fighting, Mr. Glass was commentating speaking how it's like in the comics. Dunn's son, Casey and Mrs. Price comes out and spectated what's going on. The police comes in with body armor and shields and attempted to break it off between Dunn and The Horde. Dunn was able to push all of the police on him back into a container and locked them in while The Horde savagely was beaten the police that's on him to a pulp. Once they both taken care of the police, they were about to return back fighting. Mr. Glass tells The Horde that Dunn is water and he needs to toss Dunn into the water tank, but before The Horde was about to do that, Dunn's son intervened and said that Mr. Glass organized the train wreck that killed The Horde's father which inadvertently birthed The Horde's multiple personalities. The same train wreck that David Dunn was on. Mr. Glass was both shocked and pleased with this reveal as he saw it as not a coincidence but fate that he's responsible in the creation of these super powered beings. The Horde wasn't at all pleased because The Horde's whole purpose, especially the persona of THE BEAST, is to protect Kevin, the original host. And learning that it was Mr. Glass all along that was the cause of all of it, The Horde crushed Mr. Glass's shoulder (as a reminder, Glass' entire skeleton is brittle). Dunn intervened telling the Horde to stop which pleases Mr. Glass again in that it's the hero coming in to depend the villain cliché. The Horde proceeds to attack Dunn again, but not before he pushes real hard into Glass' chest and his entire chest caves in and he falls crushing more of his bones and begins to die from internal bleeding and a caved-in chest. The Horde tosses Dunn into the water tank and starting fighting him inside the tank. Dunn, while struggling was able to pound on the walls of the tank and the tank breaks. As he struggles to regain strength, the police comes through and starts slamming him into a puddle. The Horde was intervened by Casey who has the power of an empath and was able to get the original host, Kevin, back. Once Kevin was back, he was immediately shot by the police and he dies. The police is still slamming Dunn into the puddle. Dr. Staples told Dunn to reach out her hand like she was going to pull him off. He tries and once he touches her hand, he learned what was the first BIG TWIST, which is she was part of a secret society that's been going on for centuries, similar to The Court of Owls in Batman, and their whole purpose is trick the world that GODS don't exist. Therefore, if they ever encounter anyone that have abnormal abilities and believe they are superhuman in any way, they do whatever it takes to kill them off. Dr. Staples, intent was to originally be more humane and have them believe it's all in their heads, but because that failed, she ordered the police (which was actually hired security of the secret society) to kill them off. With this reveal, Dr. Staples proceeded for her police to drown Dunn in the puddle and Dunn dies from drowning. So, Mr. Glass, David Dunn, and The Horde are all dead. Which I presume is why people would be pissed. But that's not the end of the movie. The aftermath focuses on Dr. Staples. She tells all the employees, the security and so forth that everything is under control and back to normal. Justified why they were killed because of the lives of the guards that were killed and told them that none of what happened should be spoken about outside the asylum. Then she conducted a secret society meeting with her people explaining the situation and comforting their concerns of the risk of the reveal of superheroes existing among us. However, once she went back to the office, she realized that the video cameras were tampered, thus the 2nd twist. As I mentioned earlier before that Mr. Glass tampered with the security cameras. The whole reason was so that it can record EVERYTHING that occurred, the fight, the powers, everything. Then he had it downloaded it and sent to Dunn's son, his mother's, and Casey's email address. Dr. Staples, in shocked because Mr. Glass had all of this planned the whole time and knew he was going to die regardless. His whole intention was for the entire world to learn about the existence of superheroes and he knew all along about Dr. Staples. Dr. Staples, devastated because she knew that she's doomed from this about to be exposed. The movie ends with Dunn's son, Glass' mother, and Casey meeting at the same train station as where all of it originated and wait for the reaction of people as they sent it viral online. And it ends with them proud that people will soon learn that superheroes do exist and more should come forward instead of hiding.

actually sounds pretty good.... I might have to cue up unbreakable and split this weekend

GLASS SPOILERS: A Full Breakdown Of All The Major Twists And Plot Developments

Spoiler

The Overseer

Glass picks up 15 years after the events of Unbreakable, and about a month after Split. We learn that David Dunn is still using his abilities to fight crime in the Philadelphia area, and has come to be known as The Overseer. David's son Joseph (Spencer Treat Clark) has been working alongside him, kinda like The Oracle to his Batman.

When we catch up with the duo, they're continuing their search for The Horde, who has kidnapped another group of "impure" young women to feed to The Beast.

The Rescue

Dunn gets a lead on Crumb, and encounters him in his Hedwig persona while scoping out a nearby industrial estate. After getting a vision of the unconscious cheerleaders, he follows Hedwig to the scene and frees the girls - but by then, The Beast has been unleashed.

The two do battle, but seem to be evenly matched. In the end they both crash through a window, but before they can continue the fight, they're taken into custody by Dr. Ellie Staple and the police with the aid of a light which forces Crumb to switch personalities when it flashes.

The Doctor

Dr. Staple (Sarah Paulson) takes her super-powered prisoners to a psychiatric hospital where Elijah Price - who is heavily medicated and unresponsive - is also being held. Crumb is kept at bay by the lights, while Dunn is under threat of having his room blasted by water, which, as Unbreakable fans will know, is his only weakness.

Staple hopes to convince the three men that they are suffering from a delusion which makes them believe that they're superheroes.

Casey

Casey Cooke (Anya Taylor Joy) is now living with a loving foster family, but when she hears that The Horde is in custody she decides to go and see if she can get through to Kevin Wendell Crumb. She manages to reach him very briefly, but Dennis, Patricia and Hedwig are still in control.

Staple asks Casey if she will continue visiting which she agrees to. Meanwhile, Joseph also goes to see Staple in the hopes of freeing his dad, and we find out that his mother died of cancer some years earlier.
Mr. Glass

As you probably guessed, Price has been faking all along and leaving his room at night to orchestrate his escape. He visits The Horde and convinces Patricia to help, promising another showdown between The Beast and David - but this time where the world can see what they are capable of.

Price plans to lure them to a new building on the day of its opening for their final battle. However, Staple intends to perform surgery on Elijah's frontal lobe in order to "cure" his delusions, and the procedure scheduled for the next morning.

The Escape

Ah, but Price tampered with the surgical instruments to ensure that the operation would be unsuccessful, and when a friendly orderly arrives to check on him, Elijah slits his throat with a piece of broken glass from one of the pictures on the wall.

He then frees The Horde and tells David that if he wants to stop them from killing a lot of people, he's going to have to break down the door and face them. Patricia wheels Price out through the basement, but when they encounter security, The Beast emerges and makes short work of them.

The Showdown

Dunn breaks down the door to his cell, and all of the principal characters - including Casey, Joseph and Elijah's mother - converge in front of the hospital for the big showdown.

After The Beast kills (and eats) several police officers, Dunn intervenes and the pair throw hands, finding themselves evenly matched yet again.

The Big Twist

It turns out that Crumb's father was actually on the same train that Elijah sabotaged in Unbreakable, and his loss led to the emergence of The Beast personality to protect young Kevin from his abusive mother. So, in essence, Price was responsible for creating both The Overseer and The Horde.

Joseph discovers this and tells The Beast, who had come to see Elijah as a sort of messiah for the broken. Upon finding out the truth, he snaps Elijah's collar bone and crushes his chest with a punch. He then resumes his fight with David, and they wind up hurling each other into a water tank.

The Bigger Twist

The Beast and The Overseer crash through the tank, but taking in water has left David very weak. The Beast tells him they will finish their battle at the building, but as he's leaving Casey grabs his arm and pleads with him to stop. She talks him down and manages to make Kevin emerge, but as soon as that happens a sniper takes him out - on Dr. Staple's orders!

She then has one of her men drag David to a puddle and drown him (yes, really), but before he dies she tells him to grab her hand and the truth unfolds. Staple is part of a secret organization that wants to rid the world of all super-powered individuals - hero and villain alike - and was fully prepared for this eventuality.

Not Mistakes

Kevin tells Casey that he's going to stay in the light while he slips away, as she assures him that she's his friend and gives him one final moment of compassion and comfort before he dies. Elijah's mother does the same for him as he begs for reassurance that he wasn't a mistake and had some kind of purpose. She tells him that he's remarkable as his eyes go dark.

David lies dead in a puddle while Joseph shouts at the cops.

A Larger Universe(?)

There is one final twist.

It turns out that Elijah knew about Staple all along, and his real plan was to expose her organization while revealing the existence of supers to the world at large in a suicide mission of sorts. He accomplishes this by linking the hospital's multiple cameras to an online feed, so everyone witnesses The Showdown.

The final shot sees Casey, Joseph and Elijah's mother sitting together in a train station while everyone around them reacts to the incredible footage.

 

[T’Challa’s Heir]

Was there SUPPOSED to be some kind of hint? And that hypocritical because you said the following is too predictable because it was hinted. So which do you want? Also, she spoke plain as day her 3-day purpose what to be. That had not changed and she didn't deceive anyone. It just exposes a deeper movement which so many comics and cartoons have.

Without some foreshadowing the twist is a deus ex machina. And again if we’re to believe that the first twist, it shouldn’t take that random scene in that comic book store to trigger twist 2.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

There was no hint of the first twist anywhere in the first 400+ minutes of these 3 movies. And given their stated purpose the events of this film don’t make any sense, in the sense they should have acted way earlier in the story.

And in terms of Glass’ ulterior motive; I don’t accept the premise that this was his endgame, especially with his search for his identity in unbreakable. And much like the other twist, he went about achieving it in the dumbest way possible. Let’s also not forget that they retconned him to Batman level genius in this movie. Dude was obviously smart in unbreakable, but it was no where near this.

isn't that what a plot twist is.. something that is unexpected and blind sides you... somethings are hint more that others but its still supposed to be something you didn't see coming

 

[gluvnast]

Without some foreshadowing the twist is a deus ex machina. And again if we’re to believe that the first twist, it shouldn’t take that random scene in that comic book store to trigger twist 2.

It's only an ex-machina if it's something that suddenly saves that protagonist just luckily out the blue or it was something that would of dramatic change everything just because. In this case it does not change a THING. It is only a reveal. Had she not said anything, the same result of what happened still would of happened. All it did was informed Dunn (and the viewers) who that person really was and who they are associated with and their purpose and agenda. It didn't change ANYTHING in what was happening, just added contextual information that is need to know and prompts for the significance of how it ends. Because without that reveal, the other part wouldn't be such a big deal as it would of been. But it didn't change anything of the events in the film to which is what a deus ex machina would of been defined.

 

[NYChase718]

People be mad the script isnt their fan fiction fantasy

 

[Jello Biafra]

There was some good stuff in GLASS and you could tell M Night was trying to be ambitious with this flick but the movie just didn't entertain me as much as Unbreakable and Split did. I actually checked the clock a bunch of times through this movie which I don't do when I am being entertained by a movie as much as I want to be entertained by a movie.

 

[Jello Biafra]

There was no hint of the first twist anywhere in the first 400+ minutes of these 3 movies. And given their stated purpose the events of this film don’t make any sense, in the sense they should have acted way earlier in the story.

And in terms of Glass’ ulterior motive; I don’t accept the premise that this was his endgame, especially with his search for his identity in unbreakable. And much like the other twist, he went about achieving it in the dumbest way possible. Let’s also not forget that they retconned him to Batman level genius in this movie. Dude was obviously smart in unbreakable, but it was no where near this.

Twist #1 was hinted at if you think about the situation with the doctor and start questioning who she is, what she is doing, how she is actually doing it and who gave her the authority to do it at all.
Even her first appearance hints at there being something more to her than what we were shown.

And Twist #2 shouldn't have been a surprise for anyone who saw Unbreakable or paid attention to how the character behind it had been described all through this movie. Add to it the comments made about steps he took that were assumed to be mistakes and it was obvious that something else was going to be revealed.

Spoiler

Also you have to take into account that Glass had begun doubting himself just like Kevin and Dunn ended up doubting themselves thanks to the doctor. Glass even admitted as much. So it wasn't like he had been plotting this thing for years...he almost got convinced that he was just a prettty smart dude with a bone disease.

 

[T’Challa’s Heir]

Twist #1 was hinted at if you think about the situation with the doctor and start questioning who she is, what she is doing, how she is actually doing it and who gave her the authority to do it at all.
Even her first appearance hints at there being something more to her than what we were shown.

And Twist #2 shouldn't have been a surprise for anyone who saw Unbreakable or paid attention to how the character behind it had been described all through this movie. Add to it the comments made about steps he took that were assumed to be mistakes and it was obvious that something else was going to be revealed.

Spoiler

Also you have to take into account that Glass had begun doubting himself just like Kevin and Dunn ended up doubting themselves thanks to the doctor. Glass even admitted as much. So it wasn't like he had been plotting this thing for years...he almost got convinced that he was just a prettty smart dude with a bone disease.

I didn’t really buy the scene where she was convincing them they didn’t have powers. You telling this dude you don’t think he has super strength, but you got him chained to the floor and behind a steel vault door. Dude has 15+ years of never being injured while throwing dudes through walls. And she managed to erase that by saying nah, even though we are certainly keeping you captive like we think you have super strength.