Official Gavin Newsom Recall Watch Thread

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I don't do less of two evils...if there's a problem, you have solution, you have my vote

the recall was partly due to his covid and wild fire responses, he's a mismanaging hypocrite

I'll ask again, why would you want Elder to win if the outcome of him winning is worse then Newsome staying in? Especially considering he was going strip all of the COVID regulations put into place. Californians will have their chance to potentially primary him soon here. So there's your chance, there simply wasn't a better option presented than keeping Newsome in office. If there was maybe the recall would've actually happened. It would be insane to vote someone in with Elder's background because it literally wouldn't make anything better. The two things you just described would've been poorly handled by Elder as well.

And "I don't do lesser of two evils" is a short sighted nonsensical answer to the question. No one is going to take you seriously if you can't even explain why you think doing something that would make things much worse is actually good in the long run.

Unless you're an accelerationist your opinions on this don't make any sense at all
 
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I'll ask again, why would you want Elder to win if the outcome of him winning is worse then Newsome staying in? Especially considering he was going strip all of the COVID regulations put into place. Californians will have their chance to potentially primary him soon here. So there's you chance, there simply wasn't a better option presented than keeping Newsome in office. If there was maybe the recall would've actually happened. It would be insane to vote someone in with Elder's background because it literally wouldn't make anything better. The two things you just described would've been poorly handled by Newsome as well.

And "I don't do lesser of two evils" is a short sighted nonsensical answer to the question. No one is going to take you seriously if you can't even explain why you think doing something that would make things much worse is actually good in the long run.
it's not short sighted, it's the defacto justification of being a political party shill and tolerant of failure
If Newsom was recalled partly for those reasons, any effort opposite his implemented failed agenda is possibly the solution and/or worth considering...so suggesting anyone is worst than an already failed agenda isn't the behavior of a problem solver
 
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it's not short sighted, it's the defacto justification of being a political party shill and tolerant of failure
If Newsom was recalled partly for those reasons, any effort opposite his implemented failed agenda is possibly the solution and/or worth considering...so suggesting anyone is worst than an already failed agenda isn't the behavior of a problem solver

This is complete fukking nonsense. If you wanted Elder in because you like his policies just say so. I get really sick of you right wingers just being so fukking cowardly you can't just come out and back the policies you believe in. To Even suggest his policies which are already in play in Florida and Texas as well as numerous other southern and have been by all measures a complete fukking disaster is also a sign of total ignorance and or a sign of someone who openly wishes for human suffering on a large scale. Not to mention all the corruption in those states as well.

This isn't a defense of Newsome either, but unless you're an accelerationist (You're not) you're literally just advocating for a right wing take over and implementation of right wing policies of the largest state in the country. Policies that do not and have not worked. To suggest other wise is show everyone you have no fukking idea what you're talking about either purposefully or because you like to speak on shyt you don't understand. Once again have some balls and just say you want those policies you coward.

You keep saying you're a "problem solver" no my guy you're either a complete idiot or you're a shytty human. Chose one.
 
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This is complete fukking nonsense. If you wanted Elder in because you like his policies just say so. I get really sick of you right wingers just being so fukking cowardly you can't just come out and back the policies you believe in. To Even suggest his policies which are already in play in Florida and Texas as well as numerous other southern and have been by all measures a complete fukking disaster is also a sign of total ignorance and or a sign of someone who openly wishes for human suffering on a large scale. Not to mention all the corruption in those states as well.

This isn't a defense of Newsome either, but unless you're an accelerationist (You're not) you're literally just advocating for a right wing take over and implementation of right wing policies of the largest state in the country. Policies that do not and have not worked. to suggest other wise is show everyone you have no fukking idea what you're talking about either purposefully or because you like to speak on shyt you don't understand. Once again have some balls and just say you want those policies you coward.
right because texas/florida are known for wildfires and mask mandates that don't require the 90%+ protection version makes sense
...all of this capeing and name calling for proven failed policies. smh

-political habits,
-capitalist habits,
-when/why white involvement matters/don't, and
-who/why to lie/mislead/exaggerate about

...says more about a person than George Floyd, BLM, and Black Excellence discussions
 
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right because texas/florida are known for wildfires and mask mandates that don't require the 90%+ protection version makes sense
...all of this capeing and name calling for proven failed policies. smh

-political habits,
-capitalist habits,
-when/why white involvement matters/don't, and
-who/why to lie/mislead/exaggerate about

...says more about a person than George Floyd, BLM, and Black Excellence discussions

Typical cowardly right winger who doesn't even have the balls or brains to tell us which policies he likes. Just pushing for right wing reactionary nonsense, another fukking p*ssy ass coward loser :camby:

If you can't even tell us the policies you support don't fukking post in here. Christ
 
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Typical cowardly right winger who doesn't even have the balls or brains to tell us which policies he likes. Just pushing for right wing reactionary nonsense, another fukking p*ssy ass coward loser :camby:

If you can't even tell us the policies you support don't fukking post in here. Christ
if you really had something to say, you would've defended Newsom's covid response and wildfire management efforts, while name calling

imagine labeling facts as right/left so to avoid not addressing them, but somehow still feels morally/intellectually superior :russ:
 
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if you really had something to say, you would've defended Newsom's covid response and wildfire management efforts, while name calling

imagine labeling facts as right/left so to avoid not addressing them, but somehow still feels morally/intellectually superior :russ:

Political policies fall into a right and left spectrum. For instance, Newsome is an obvious neoliberal and his governance is more likely to fall into the center right category. Elder would be an extremist who's policies would fall into a far right category. These labels are important because they help people to understand who's closer to them on the political compass and who's worthy of their vote. Clearly people had a mass rejection of far right policies as they believed they wouldn't help California as a state. I know it hurts that people have rejected and continue to reject your batshyt insane far right policies. Get the fukk over it

Imagine not understanding dikk all about politics but claiming you do. Once again Right wingers making stupid people think they should open their mouths on shyt they clearly don't understand is one of the worst things to ever happen. You clearly don't know shyt about politics but thinking "we can't put labels on things" is some kind of enlightened position. No you just look stupid and uninformed. It's just reactionary garbage, take that shyt over to TLR.
 
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arrogantly embracing failure/lies that leads to immediate consequences in order to toe partyline but is shocked that their warnings of impending social/climate/political danger are meh status...funny how that works:youngsabo:

Political policies fall into a right and left spectrum. For instance, Newsome is an obvious neoliberal and his governance is more likely to fall into the center right category. Elder would be an extremist who's policies would fall into a far right category. These labels are important because they help people to understand who's closer to them on the political compass and who's worthy of their vote. Clearly people had a mass rejection of far right policies as they believed they wouldn't help California as a state. I know it hurts that people have rejected and continue to reject your batshyt insane far right policies. Get the fukk over it

Imagine not understanding dikk all about politics but claiming you do. Once again Right wingers making stupid people think they should open their mouths on shyt they clearly don't understand is one of the worst things to ever happen. You clearly don't know shyt about politics but thinking "we can't put labels on things" is some kind of enlightened position. No you just look stupid and uninformed. It's just reactionary garbage, take that shyt over to TLR.
right/left/up/down bafflegab to bury inability to defend the indefensible :banderas:


Only 18% of the Vote :russ: how humiliating ...what a sound rejection Tom

...3rd largest economy is hemorrhaging tax payers to states with opposing political leadership, so what's a few more failed policies to tolerate among the democrat analinguist :ahh:
 

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it's not short sighted, it's the defacto justification of being a political party shill and tolerant of failure
If Newsom was recalled partly for those reasons, any effort opposite his implemented failed agenda is possibly the solution and/or worth considering...so suggesting anyone is worst than an already failed agenda isn't the behavior of a problem solver
I did consider. I signed the petition. I was going to vote for the recall until Elder was the frontrunner. Elder is an ideologue, not a problem solver. Nothing would get done under his leadership.
 
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