OFFICIAL Game of Holmes Season 8 Thread - A Dream of Flat Tops 4/14/19

[King Harlem]

Unpopular Opinion: I've read the books and I know this was set up, but Jon Snow should've died and stayed dead (or at the very least been severely changed after resurrection). Up to that point, you make these types of mistakes and the consequences were severe. Once they brought him back it was like a core principle of this world had been changed.

 

[Silkk]

Kinda insane to me that a Robert's Rebellion prequel hasn't been greenlit yet

 

[MajesticLion]

A lot of people have stopped caring and have moved on to other things. Going forward, HOTD is largely going to be a cgi-fest and not the more suspenseful political/interpersonal scheming that attracted them to GoT.


All this time between seasons, between various projects that may never see airtime...Martin will trend toward his nadir until/unless he actually releases another book.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Gods... Cat was ugly as sin. What did Ned and Littlefinger see in her?

They had a thing for fire crotches.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Unpopular Opinion: I've read the books and I know this was set up, but Jon Snow should've died and stayed dead (or at the very least been severely changed after resurrection). Up to that point, you make these types of mistakes and the consequences were severe. Once they brought him back it was like a core principle of this world had been changed.

Not that far in the books but didn't the dude The Hound body already prove this was possible long before Jon

 

[King Harlem]

Not that far in the books but didn't the dude The Hound body already prove this was possible long before Jon

The Hound and Lady Stonehart, but both of them came back messed up.
Jon Snow came back like nothing happened.

 

[Silkk]

The Hound and Lady Stonehart, but both of them came back messed up.
Jon Snow came back like nothing happened.

You talking about the mountain.

I think he talking about the patch eye dude that kept dying and coming back.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

You talking about the mountain.

I think he talking about the patch eye dude that kept dying and coming back.

Yea I was... But damn, I forgot the Mountain came back too.

 

[ciubaca]

Unpopular Opinion: I've read the books and I know this was set up, but Jon Snow should've died and stayed dead (or at the very least been severely changed after resurrection). Up to that point, you make these types of mistakes and the consequences were severe. Once they brought him back it was like a core principle of this world had been changed.

John coldnt stay dead duh... Danny, the wildlings, the north did what they did because of Jon. He was to important for the plot

 

[King Harlem]

John coldnt stay dead duh... Danny, the wildlings, the north did what they did because of Jon. He was to important for the plot

My point is that when I first started watching Game of Thrones, I couldn't believe that Ned Starks got killed. Then I read that GRRM wrote GOT to subvert the standard hero tropes and cliches that are popular in TV and movies. Your traditional heroes die if they make the wrong decision, no matter how noble the cause. TO ME, this changed when Jon was resurrected. By those last couple of seasons, it becomes a traditional fantasy series. Jon, Sansa, Arya and Bran were going to make it to the end no matter what mistakes they made which according to GRRM is the antithesis of what GOT was supposed to be.

 

[ciubaca]

My point is that when I first started watching Game of Thrones, I couldn't believe that Ned Starks got killed. Then I read that GRRM wrote GOT to subvert the standard hero tropes and cliches that are popular in TV and movies. Your traditional heroes die if they make the wrong decision, no matter how noble the cause. TO ME, this changed when Jon was resurrected. By those last couple of seasons, it becomes a traditional fantasy series. Jon, Sansa, Arya and Bran were going to make it to the end no matter what mistakes they made which according to GRRM is the antithesis of what GOT was supposed to be.

One resurection was ok...it didnt bother me. What bothered me was everything else. You cant kill everyone. Killing major characters just for shock value would become corny and expected after a while
. I mean with jon dead...
No wildling army.
No battle of the b*stards
No king in the north
No danny going north
No dead dragon to melt the wall
No better claim to the throne than danny
No danny going mad
No jon killing danny

Who knows maybe he should've stayed dead

 

[King Harlem]

One resurection was ok...it didnt bother me. What bothered me was everything else. You cant kill everyone. Killing major characters just for shock value would become corny. I mean with jon dead...
No wildling army.
No battle of the b*stards
No king in the north
No danny going north
No dead dragon to melt the wall
No better claim to the throne than danny
No danny going mad
No jon killing danny

Who knows maybe he should've stayed dead

To me there is the show before Jon's death (which for the most part is where the book material ends) and the show after Jon's death.
One of these days I will rewatch the series, but it was at this point that the story telling changes and it may have more to do with not having any more source material.

 

[RamsayBolton]

kill this thread like arya killed the night king

 

[duck]

You talking about the mountain.

I think he talking about the patch eye dude that kept dying and coming back.

Beric dondarion

 

[daemonova]

Beric dondarion