Official Destiny Thread [RISE OF IRON OUT NOW!]

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Am I missing something with what akademiks is saying? What perks is he talking about?

you aint missing shyt...the 'perks' he talking about are on all uncommon weapons/gear....each one does something different....ex: 1 gun will have faster reloads, 1 will allow the last bullet to do more damage, etc....
 

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I guess I am...I absolutely hate this new era of EXP, perk and loadout based shooters. I fukkin hate it. I want to be able to go into a match knowing what everyone has and what's available to us on that map that we can use at our disposal. Lol @ spawning with a sniper or rocket launcher....I feel disgusted at a developer for thinking I want the game to be that easy.....nikka force me to think and adapt with every passing minute in a match based on where my opponent goes and what he or she is doing...don't just drop me in a game with all the goodies and let me mow ppl down left n right without breaking a sweat....
There are ways they can do this though...

Like the Heavy Weapon that you spawn with, I rarely ever use it in a match because you have to actually fight for the ammo to use it. Most of the time I don't even get a chance to grab the ammo. I think Bungie is on to something with the multiplayer, maybe they can come up with a Hardcore kind of mode, where the special ammo around the map spawns less frequently, IDK, but from the time I've spent with the game, it rewards players who are by the objectives because that's where the ammo is usually located.

I feel you though, after I got the hang of the game, it is on the easy side. The assault rifles actually can kill you from a pretty good distance as well. That shyt blew me at first.
 

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and yea, i'm cool with it as long as everyone gets to play how they want and not how the elitists think others should play.... in the end: the games are supposed to be fun...and it's not mine, yours, or anyone else's place to tell others how to have fun....if the majority are having fun and it's something I don't like, that's cool...

I'm an elitist because I think rewarding everyone in a match for playing more hrs than the next man is unacceptable? cool.

Anyway, yes...games are supposed to be fun, no need to remind me...it's why I enjoy playing video games. Also, you're right...it's not my place to tell anyone how to play or enjoy their video game, that is not what i've been saying...I have a problem with the game design aspect that these developers are taking with shooters. Also, what about the people that enjoy competitive gaming and don't want randomness introduced into each encounter during a match? So i'm suppose to accept perks and all this other garbage because it makes everyone feel liek a superhero with all teh hand holding and little punishment for playing terrible? What about us? How are we suppose to enjoy destiny...by not playing? that's bullshyt. The only reason why every shooter out has adopted these exp, perk and load-out systems is because the casual scrubby player feel empowered by them during a match and they flock to buy these games. I expect to see DLC with new armor mods, weapons and all that other shyt soon after release...because nikkas eat that shyt up.

Call Of Duty has the highest active population of players on the planet for shooters and the highest number of scrub players for a shooter (probably record breaking numbers too)....we don't need to guess why....The last game in the series I respected was COD 2...everything else since has been dumbed down way too much for my liking...but I guess it sells like crack...so let me shut up...
 
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I feel you though, after I got the hang of the game, it is on the easy side. The assault rifles actually can kill you from a pretty good distance as well. That shyt blew me at first.

my nikka!!!! I really thought from playing the story that it was going to have some kind of shooting skill with the health and weapons....till I unlocked the AR and played my first multiplayer match....If I wasn't killing a nikka by spraying him from across the map it was being done to me. I was disgusted. That shyt is terrible. The AR has way too much range and power to be doing dumb shyt like that...The DMR's should be the rifle to do shyt like that...

and yea the ammo box for the heavy weapons remind me of grabbing weapons in halo..but they spawn way too frequently and need to be put in locations away from key areas (objectives)
 

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I'm an elitist because I think rewarding everyone in a match for playing more hrs than the next man is unacceptable? cool.

Anyway, yes...games are supposed to be fun, no need to remind me...it's why I enjoy playing video games. Also, you're right...it's not my place to tell anyone how to play or enjoy their video game, that is not what i've been saying...I have a problem with the game design aspect that these developers are taking with shooters. Also, what about the people that enjoy competitive gaming and don't want randomness introduced into each encounter during a match? So i'm suppose to accept perks and all this other garbage because it makes everyone feel liek a superhero with all teh hand holding and little punishment for playing terrible? What about us? How are we suppose to enjoy destiny...by not playing? that's bullshyt. The only reason why every shooter out has adopted these exp, perk and load-out systems is because the casual scrubby player feel empowered by them during a match and they flock to buy these games. I expect to see DLC with new armor mods, weapons and all that other shyt soon after release...because nikkas eat that shyt up.

i'm sure in the retail game you'll be able to set matches up however you want, so there you....for all the competitive gamers, that's your answer ....also, people aren't just thrown together in the crucible, everything is taken into account (level, gear, weapons) and people are grouped with people of around the same shyt....so pros arent just picking on the new players.....now, the iron banner challenge they've had, is a free for all, and everyone is thrown together...so you want your best shyt when you go there....and even then: it's not about what you got, but how you use it....

and even though I didn't call you an elitist, you are acting like it....cause people like the perks, exp, etc., you automatically calling them scrubs? come on man lol.....like I said all that balance shyt boils down to ego...anyway, you are right about them putting a lot of that shyt in for casuals...the reason is casuals spend money, where as hardcore gamers don't...if they did, devs would cater to them more....
 

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speaking of the iron banner, it's gonna be back the 25th and 26th....both days, it's gonna be:

10am - 12pm
2pm - 4pm
7pm - 9pm

those are pacific times
 

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I agree wit @AkaDemiK that why I feel that gears 1 and 2(are ranking system update), and halo was the goat competitive games on consoles

Every one starts wit the same items and we see who has the best skill, fighting over gun was crazy, think everybody in gears could spawn wit a hammer of dawn, shyt would be trash

But all that shyt died wit cod and now shooters have no longevity outside of cod(fast paced noob shyt), bf(all type of wild shyt), and none of those games take as much skill as gears or halo
 

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I'm an elitist because I think rewarding everyone in a match for playing more hrs than the next man is unacceptable? cool.

Anyway, yes...games are supposed to be fun, no need to remind me...it's why I enjoy playing video games. Also, you're right...it's not my place to tell anyone how to play or enjoy their video game, that is not what i've been saying...I have a problem with the game design aspect that these developers are taking with shooters. Also, what about the people that enjoy competitive gaming and don't want randomness introduced into each encounter during a match? So i'm suppose to accept perks and all this other garbage because it makes everyone feel liek a superhero with all teh hand holding and little punishment for playing terrible? What about us? How are we suppose to enjoy destiny...by not playing? that's bullshyt. The only reason why every shooter out has adopted these exp, perk and load-out systems is because the casual scrubby player feel empowered by them during a match and they flock to buy these games. I expect to see DLC with new armor mods, weapons and all that other shyt soon after release...because nikkas eat that shyt up.

Call Of Duty has the highest active population of players on the planet for shooter and the highest number of scrub players for a shooter....we don't need to guess why...
the developers add all this shyt into the games to keep the consumers continually playing their game, look what happened to titanfall, they tried to go back to the bacis and that shyt fell off in 2 months
 

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the developers add all this shyt into the games to keep the consumers continually playing their game, look what happened to titanfall, they tried to go back to the bacis and that shyt fell off in 2 months

remember in halo 2 when everyone and their grandmothers were playing 24/7....and I mean 24/7....because of a dope rank system? you don't need unlocks and heavy customization that may potentially break the gameplay to keep ppl playing. You don't need to dumb your game down for the masses to keep ppl playing. Give us great gameplay and a great matchmaking/rank/league system and we are on it like white on rice. Reward players for winning, not for just playing the game for hrs upon hrs to fill up an exp bar.

I agree wit @AkaDemiK that why I feel that gears 1 and 2(are ranking system update), and halo was the goat competitive games on consoles

Every one starts wit the same items and we see who has the best skill, fighting over gun was crazy, think everybody in gears could spawn wit a hammer of dawn, shyt would be trash

But all that shyt died wit cod and now shooters have no longevity outside of cod(fast paced noob shyt), bf(all type of wild shyt), and none of those games take as much skill as gears or halo

that's essentially what COD, BF, Destiny, TitanFall and all these exp/loadout based games do....shyt is terrible. Like I said, I feel offended when a developer thinks that I should start with the best guns in a game...it's like really my man?...i'm too exdperienced for a tricycle.

Halo, Gears and Shadowrun are the most skill based shooters on console.....by light years. I bet nikkas forgot what having to earn shyt during a match felt like...nowadays when you spawn, push into a fight and get raped...you don't feel punished that bad...you don't feel like you have to adjust your decision making at all...just press start..go to loadouts and select a fukking sniper or some other powerful weapon, better armor and a mod to keep your aim steady...spawn back and get revenge easily on the person that killed you 20 secs. ago. I really really hate that shyt.
 
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remember in halo 2 when everyone and their grandmothers were playing 24/7....and I mean 24/7....because of a dope rank system? you don't unlocks and heavy customization to keep ppl playing. You don't need to dumb your game down for the masses to keep ppl playing. Give us great gameplay and a great matchmaking/rank/league system and we are on it like white on rice.
the game has changed since 04,

the average consumer wants a lot of shyt put into the games
 

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i'm sure in the retail game you'll be able to set matches up however you want, so there you....for all the competitive gamers, that's your answer ....also, people aren't just thrown together in the crucible, everything is taken into account (level, gear, weapons) and people are grouped with people of around the same shyt....so pros arent just picking on the new players.....now, the iron banner challenge they've had, is a free for all, and everyone is thrown together...so you want your best shyt when you go there....and even then: it's not about what you got, but how you use it....

and even though I didn't call you an elitist, you are acting like it....cause people like the perks, exp, etc., you automatically calling them scrubs? come on man lol.....like I said all that balance shyt boils down to ego...anyway, you are right about them putting a lot of that shyt in for casuals...the reason is casuals spend money, where as hardcore gamers don't...if they did, devs would cater to them more....
Casuals spend money and abandon your shyt after a month once the new cod comes out, hard core spend money and play your shyt for years, bye dlc and keep your game active

Halo and gears games online system died out cause of catering to noobs and the likes, people played halo 3 heavy for years

People played gears 1 & 2(thru all the lag) heavy for years

Once they tried to cater to casuals they online stopped having wheels, halo no more ranking system, no winning to rank up, perks, spawn wit different guns.....gears killed the ranking system and added exp so that everybody could rank up, added in a noob shotgun and basically killed the games most popular battle gnasher v gnashed, added in a bunch of different guns that threw off the balance of the game

And once they started to cater to noob they both sold less
 

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Casuals spend money and abandon your shyt after a month once the new cod comes out, hard core spend money and play your shyt for years, bye dlc and keep your game active

Halo and gears games online system died out cause of catering to noobs and the likes, people played halo 3 heavy for years

People played gears 1 & 2(thru all the lag) heavy for years

Once they tried to cater to casuals they online stopped having wheels, halo no more ranking system, no winning to rank up, perks, spawn wit different guns.....gears killed the ranking system and added exp so that everybody could rank up, added in a noob shotgun and basically killed the games most popular battle gnasher v gnashed, added in a bunch of different guns that threw off the balance of the game

And once they started to cater to noob they both sold less
halo 4 sold really well, but who wanted that when cod is out...
 

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the game has changed since 04,

the average consumer wants a lot of shyt put into the games

You can still add all of those things, just don't make them affect the gameplay too much. Stuff like weapon skins and new attire is dope to me...but when these things affect how the game plays....I can't rock with it. Gears has weapon skins and outfits players can unlock after doing specific stuff in the game over a period of time, none of which affects the gameplay. We arent playing league of legends or shyt similar where items you purchase make the gameplay better, these are shooters where thumbless players can rape you if they play for 20 hrs str8 to beat missions and acquire new weapons and perks...shyt is disgusting

imagine the NBA my nikka...imagine if your team...the pacers played against another team with a hoop that moves around every 30 secs because that team won 15 more games than the pacers or they had the money to buy such equipment. How would you feel?
 

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halo 4 sold really well, but who wanted that when cod is out...
It did reach numbers, it didn't sell like halo 3, and a lot of people wanted it, the same people that told them on they forums to not codify the game and they still did, and warned them if they did that the game would die in months and it did, adding exp is so not halo and ruins what the game was loved for balance, skill and being ranked against similar players, winning to rank up

All these exp games have one thing in common, they turn into a fukk the win, all I care for is my stats game

And they need to understand they cater to casuals who always leave the game and go back to cod, but if they build the game around the hardcore the casuals will still bye it, and the hardcore would keep it alive cause they love it

The same reason halo 3 stay top 5 for like 4 years, cater to noobs and when they leave like they always do have no hardcore to fall back on
 
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