Official "Dark Side Of The Ring" Discussion Thread

[MenacingMonk]

Good site to keep track breh. Brody episode is already out. (released early)

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Vice is posting them on their site.

 

[julesocean]

c*nt Hogan everybody

That's some nice ether.

 

[julesocean]

Why did the episode completely ignore that Bret's contract expired weeks after Montreal and he could have dropped it even at the In Your House PPV?

I dont know, theres so many docs, shoots and podcasts on it with more info, this one just kinda ended up being a stupid Russo vs Cornette thing in the whole second half.

The Bruiser one is the only in depth one, the others were fine but stuff we knew.

The Gino Hernadez one should be good

Survivor Series was the last big PPV before it was up. Imagine your champ grandstanding against dropping the title at the show that was "best for business".

 

[King P]

I had heard Cornette saying he run away after the screwjob took place in some shoots, but did he say somewhere he was responsible for the idea?

He mentioned it on Kayfabe Commentaries shoot. Didn't take responsibility for it, but he talked about how when Vince and them were trying to find a resolution to the Bret/Shawn match, trying to come up with any idea they could. And Jim blurted out "double cross his ass" in jest. From there, the idea was actually discussed and Cornette said it was bad idea. Basically said if Shawn tried to cinch up on a small package, Bret would kick out at 2 & 3/4 and proceed to beating the shyt outta him.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Documentaries have been GOOD. Vince is a piece of shyt for still allowing Carlito's father in the Hall of Fall. Was fukked up what happened to Brody.

 

[Tommy Fits]

c*nt Hogan everybody

That's some weapons grade ether

 

[krazykid18]

He mentioned it on Kayfabe Commentaries shoot. Didn't take responsibility for it, but he talked about how when Vince and them were trying to find a resolution to the Bret/Shawn match, trying to come up with any idea they could. And Jim blurted out "double cross his ass" in jest. From there, the idea was actually discussed and Cornette said it was bad idea. Basically said if Shawn tried to cinch up on a small package, Bret would kick out at 2 & 3/4 and proceed to beating the shyt outta him.

Bret must have been ill with the hands from how wrestler's talk about him, i remember his documentary Triple H and Shawn wanted no parts of those hands lmao...... I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT BRET BELIEVE ME LMAO

 

[DaKidFromNoWhere]

Bret must have been ill with the hands from how wrestler's talk about him, i remember his documentary Triple H and Shawn wanted no parts of those hands lmao...... I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT BRET BELIEVE ME LMAO

Even back then I was like Trip seem shook and sound like he not telling the truth.

 

[krazykid18]

Even back then I was like Trip seem shook and sound like he not telling the truth.

It is obvious Bret had hands and they didn't want to catch those hands, shyt didn't Shawn catch those hands already before Wrestlemania 13 lol,

 

[patscorpio]

Even back then I was like Trip seem shook and sound like he not telling the truth.

triple h is just a bodybuilding roid monkey..hart is the son of a legendary wrestler / hooker..of course he didnt want no parts of bret

 

[TrueEpic08]

Bret must have been ill with the hands from how wrestler's talk about him, i remember his documentary Triple H and Shawn wanted no parts of those hands lmao...... I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT BRET BELIEVE ME LMAO

It is obvious Bret had hands and they didn't want to catch those hands, shyt didn't Shawn catch those hands already before Wrestlemania 13 lol,

Bret had just kicked Shawn's ass a few months prior to the Screwjob (after WM 13...wanna say around June-July 1997 without checking sources) and he hadn't even really done anything to him yet. They were probably deathly afraid of what Bret was going to do to them once they HAD done something to him.

From what I know, people rarely tested legit Dungeon trainees (so not Jericho, but Bret, Dynamite Kid, etc. Basically if you weren't trained by Stu Hart, whose last student was Jim Neidhart according to Bret, or Tokyo Joe, you weren't a legit Dungeon trainee). The only guy I remember really got over on one was Jacques Rougeau when he KOed Dynamite over some ribs he had been pulling.

Docs have been fine for the most part, with the best being the Brody episode by a mile. None of these really have a lot of new information dedicated fans couldn't find elsewhere (nothing new about the Screwjob, many people have detailed how Randy and Liz's relationship broke down, and Atlas has told that exact story about Brody's death for years now), but then again these docs aren't made for dedicated fans exclusively. There's definitely a bit of glossing and/or white washing going on here, what with them not going into Randy's weird predilection for much younger women in the late 90s, glossing over how his on screen behavior towards Liz was typical abuser behavior, or really going into Bret's contract situation or how Vince essentially held Owen hostage under threat of legal recourse (ironic considering how Bret could've sued Vince for breach of contract and more than likely won). But the documentaries themselves are for the most part good intros into a different side of the business for newer fans.

 

[threattonature]

Bret had just kicked Shawn's ass a few months prior to the Screwjob (after WM 13...wanna say around June-July 1997 without checking sources) and he hadn't even really done anything to him yet. They were probably deathly afraid of what Bret was going to do to them once they HAD done something to him.

From what I know, people rarely tested legit Dungeon trainees (so not Jericho, but Bret, Dynamite Kid, etc. Basically if you weren't trained by Stu Hart, whose last student was Jim Neidhart according to Bret, or Tokyo Joe, you weren't a legit Dungeon trainee). The only guy I remember really got over on one was Jacques Rougeau when he KOed Dynamite over some ribs he had been pulling.

Docs have been fine for the most part, with the best being the Brody episode by a mile. None of these really have a lot of new information dedicated fans couldn't find elsewhere (nothing new about the Screwjob, many people have detailed how Randy and Liz's relationship broke down, and Atlas has told that exact story about Brody's death for years now), but then again these docs aren't made for dedicated fans exclusively. There's definitely a bit of glossing and/or white washing going on here, what with them not going into Randy's weird predilection for much younger women in the late 90s, glossing over how his on screen behavior towards Liz was typical abuser behavior, or really going into Bret's contract situation or how Vince essentially held Owen hostage under threat of legal recourse (ironic considering how Bret could've sued Vince for breach of contract and more than likely won). But the documentaries themselves are for the most part good intros into a different side of the business for newer fans.

And even that was by sucker punching him with a roll of coins in his hand.

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

Viceland is finally dropping that 'The Wrestlers' series



They finally got desperate enough for viewers after Desus and Mero gave them the

 

[King P]

Bret must have been ill with the hands from how wrestler's talk about him, i remember his documentary Triple H and Shawn wanted no parts of those hands lmao...... I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT BRET BELIEVE ME LMAO

Shawn always knew he wasn't bout that life. His political power and tougher Kliq buddies is what kept him from getting punked.

Only person HBK stepped to on a physical level that i can recall off rip is Vince Russo back. And even then he exposed his softness by telling him "I know I can't beat up alot of people, but I know I can beat up you"

Bret was an amateur wrestler growing up, plus he came from the Hart Dungeon so you know he was getting stretched at a young age.

Everyone in the office knew they were no match for Bret. There's a reason Brisco felt the need to teach Shawn a couple holds just in case shyt went down.

Also, it's the reason why the Screwjob was planned out the way it was. Jericho had Dave Meltzer on his podcast 2 years ago on the 20th anniversary, and Dave broke down everything started from the beginning in 96. Now when it came time to carry out the screwjob, Vince actually did pitch it to the guys in creative and whatnot. Apparently Vince wantes to carry out the Screwjob like he did with Moolah/Richter (where Moolah held her down for a small package). They had to tell Vince it's a terrible idea, because you can't have Bret knowing that Shawn knows. Because then you risk Bret beating the shyt outta Shawn, and he'll walk into WCW the biggest hero while WWF is left with a world champion that ain't worth shyt.

And even Jericho was like "yeah if I to pick between who would win in a shoot fight, I'd pick Bret. He came from the Dungeon"

 

[jshani]

So this is like a bigger budget version of the Behind The Titantron series on youtube?