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I wish that deleted scene between BP and Widow had made it to the film because it makes the Zemo part at the end easier to digest. i.e. BP didn't care if he killed Bucky or got him apprehended... since he was going to get dude extradited to Wakanda anyway, if the latter occurred. So with that scene in place, not killing Zemo in cold blood is passable b/c you can assume the play is still to get him extradited to Wakanda, and Ross being on guard duty of Zemo then isn't coincidence for the Ross character... b/c bp's movie takes place shortly after civil war and they will be mourning T'Chaka. So Ross has a reason to still be involved (for better or worse lol), especialy in the politics aspect of it.

That BP/Widow scene isn't crucial to Steve/Tony's story, but without it, things were a little more foggy as to why BP would let Zemo live and turn him over (seemingly) to some other governing body to pass judgement. But things instantly made a bit more sense to me once i saw it.
 

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And tbh the only black power message i want in black panther is seeing a charismatic, intelligent, powerful, heterosexual (:ufdup:) dark skinned superhero kick ass, get his romance with a beautiful dark skin love interest, and save the day with all the dignity and character protection that is always afforded all those other types (:mjpls:) of superheroes like Batman, Captain America and Iron Man.

Sure first and foremost i want lil black kids to have an un-apologetically black superhero that doesn't fukk around but in addition i lowkey want hispanic and asian kids to be as lit about black panther as lil black kids are about Batman, Ironman, Goku and other non-black heroes. Bc that sends a powerful message and leads to imitation by competitors, which also opens up the door for more opportunities.
 

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Big ups to Ironhead Studios making that bad ass Black Panther suit. I kind of wish they didn't CGI the suit so much in the Civil War movie. I actually like the original fabric designs.

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And tbh the only black power message i want in black panther is seeing a charismatic, intelligent, powerful, heterosexual (:ufdup:) dark skinned superhero kick ass, get his romance with a beautiful dark skin love interest, and save the day with all the dignity and character protection that is always afforded all those other types (:mjpls:) of superheroes like Batman, Captain America and Iron Man.

Sure first and foremost i want lil black kids to have an un-apologetically black superhero that doesn't fukk around but in addition i lowkey want hispanic and asian kids to be as lit about black panther as lil black kids are about Batman, Ironman, Goku and other non-black heroes. Bc that sends a powerful message and leads to imitation by competitors, which also opens up the door for more opportunities.

When I was up north this summer, I saw a hispanic kid playing Avengers with his sister in the swimming pool, I kid you not he picked Black Panther, I got a little choked up. It was beautiful man, we didn't have that growing up. When I was growing up, all the black kids wanted to be white heroes. We didn't know any better because that's all we saw. It wasn't until spawn, that we had a black guy, but he wasn't really black, so much as he was the cool guy in the mask.
 

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When I was up north this summer, I saw a hispanic kid playing Avengers with his sister in the swimming pool, I kid you not he picked Black Panther, I got a little choked up. It was beautiful man, we didn't have that growing up. When I was growing up, all the black kids wanted to be white heroes. We didn't know any better because that's all we saw. It wasn't until spawn, that we had a black guy, but he wasn't really black, so much as he was the cool guy in the mask.

Exactly. Spawn's face and his whole history was so fukked up that it was hard to want to be that. I always maintain that Spawn is a classic example of them trying to do too much instead of keeping it simple... and marketable. The origin itself was gold: soldier was betrayed, killed, made a deal with the devil out of desperation to see his wife again but naturally got fukked over and now is fighting that devil while figuring out who betrayed him and dealin with being placed in a future where his wife long since re-married b/c he had been dead for years. That's some engaging shyt that hits on multiple levels.

But they fukked it up by making him an abusive husband, an a$$hole soldier, and fukking over his face to where he looks like a bug zombie. Not to mention goin overboard at times with the religious stuff.

On the flipside, Black Panther has all the tools for any type of kid to want to be him. He's essentially the Green Ranger to Captain America's Red Ranger.
 

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Chadwick Boseman Says His Black Panther Will Be an 'Anti-Hero' Superhero

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Black Panther, meet Walter White?

According to star Chadwick Boseman, his onscreen version of the famed Marvel Comics character will have some "anti-hero" traits when Black Panther arrives on screen in 2018.

"This is an anti-hero, sort of," Boseman said inside the PEOPLE/EW/InStyle portrait studio at the Toronto International Film Festival on Friday, using a term used often reserved for characters like White on Breaking Bad, Tony Soprano on The Sopranos and Don Draper on Mad Men. "I feel like although he is a superhero, he is a super anti-hero."

Boseman is in Toronto to promote the revenge thriller Message from the King, in which he stars alongside Teresa Palmer, and Luke Evans as a South African man who comes to Los Angeles looking for the people responsible for the death of his sister. The 39-year-old star says the film, which had its world premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival on Thursday, includes an invisible connection to Black Panther: Boseman's dialect coach.

"I ended up using the same dialect coach I had from Message from a King, who worked with me personally along with Marvel's dialect coach on Black Panther," Boseman said of his Panther prep work. "Those are two characters based in continental Africa, so some of that cultural aspect of it, the swagger, parts of the dialect you may use – that cultural exploration is definitely something that transferred over [from one role to the next]."

Boseman made his debut as Black Panther in May's Captain America: Civil War, and will appear in the standalone movie Black Panther, to be released February 16, 2018. Lupita Nyong'o, Danai Gurira, and Michael B. Jordan are set as costars.

Asked if he felt different putting on Black Panther's suit for the movie, Boseman joked, "I'm Black Panther even outside the suit."
I wonder how they'll play the anti-hero card. If it was something morally conflicting like some shyt goes down and he decides to activate WS for his own personal agenda but for a greater good that shyt could be interesting
 

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I wonder how they'll play the anti-hero card. If it was something morally conflicting like some shyt goes down and he decides to activate WS for his own personal agenda but for a greater good that shyt could be interesting

That wouldn't make sense as winter soldier is weaker than Black Panther. He doesn't really need the guy for anything.

Anti-hero probably means he'll be a little Machiavellian. Sometimes a monarch has to put his kingdom before conventional morality.
 

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So did T'Challa eat dat magical herb already before/during Civil War timeline or dat gon happen in his dolo film?:jbhmm:


I know he was doin all kinds of dope shyt but was dat because he was off dat herb or just his naturally trained skills? :leostare:
 

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So did T'Challa eat dat magical herb already before/during Civil War timeline or dat gon happen in his dolo film?:jbhmm:


I know he was doin all kinds of dope shyt but was dat because he was off dat herb or just his naturally trained skills? :leostare:
He's superpowered already he outran Cap and made him take a jeep:russ:Black Excellence :banderas:
 

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And to be fair to the audience, this was their very first introduction to BP. A very strong majority of those viewers have never read a single BP comic book.

Comic book BP would most likely kill Zemo though. Zemo didn't just kill T'Challa's father, he killed the King of Wakanda, a sitting head of state. One rarely walks away alive from that.
my point exactly. it sort of mirrors what black folks do in reference to their icons. how many city burn when african head of state was killed
 
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