Have you seen Civil War? Black Panther already killed it in just 10 minutes 15 seconds of screen time. There's no reason to be pessimistic about his solo film.
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Have you seen Civil War? Black Panther already killed it in just 10 minutes 15 seconds of screen time. There's no reason to be pessimistic about his solo film.
disney put the money up for the sole purpose of control the content of what you are going to see. bp was created for the sole purpose of give black readers a sense of black pride and empowerment, if we are not getting that then what is the point?
i saw an african king being detain from apprehending bucky to question him in the murder of his father. bucky should not have been able to get that far with tchalla.
This is what we're getting, according to the president of Marvel Studios: "a big geopolitical action adventure that focuses on the family and royal struggle of T'Challa in Wakanda, and what it means to be a king."
What do you want that you think we're not getting?
Get how far? Bucky lost all his one-on-one fights with T'challa:
(1) Ran away when BP was distracted by helicopter
(2) Nearly killed before Cap jumped in front of him
(3) Thrown over a railing by BP and had to flee
(4) Nearly had his throat torn out by BP before Scarlet Witch intervened
(5) Nearly captured by BP before Black Widow betrayed him
That's 5 encounters in one movie where Black Panther outmatched the winter soldier.
Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
Having the characters being portrayed in a highly competent manner throughout the film will be empowering in of itself. How often does do we have a major blockbuster at this level with a majority black cast being portrayed in a highly competent manner? Especially with the superhero genre?
It will be a special sight to see.
Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
Suicide bombers have occured in developed countries many times. Doesn't make them 3rd world.
Instead of rape camps in the manner that we've seen on panel in Wakanda, we have human trafficking going on in several developed countries, including the U.S. and several western countries.
At best there has been three terrorist attacks: first pages of #1 when Zenzi messed with the Wakandan miners' state of mind (if one wants to count it as a terrorist attack), #4 when the suicide bombing occurred and the MAs taking over a village (if you want to count it as a terrorist attack). All that shows is that Wakanda is going through some turmoil. Going through turmoil doesn't equal 3rd world status.
France had two terrorist attacks in a calendar year (2015). Israel gets hit with terrorist attacks on a rather consistent basis throughout recent years. Are they 3rd world nations?
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disney is going add social bullshyt into this flick with lesbian dora bodyguards and gay wakandans and tribal disunity which is totally out of character. bp could not retaliate against scarlet witch? cap? before pursuing ws so he will not have any interference?.
(A) Disney never has any gay or lesbian characters in any of their movies because of their family-friendly brand and the fact that it would get the movie banned from China. That should be your LAST concern.
(B) They couldn't have Black Panther actually kill Bucky because that would make him the bad guy. The point was that they made his strength crystal clear.
The point of Black Panther's arc in Civil War was to demonstrate his power and to show him grow into a merciful king. He's the only hero who actually learned an important lesson and became a better person by the end of the movie (in contrast to Stark, who was "consumed by revenge" and Steve, who threw away his responsibility as Cap for selfish reasons).
Now they can carry T'Challa forward and show him explore more of "what it means to be a king" in his solo film.
Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
Personally, I felt that T'Challa should've killed Zemo when he revealed to be the one responsible for T'Chaka's death...but I understand why T'Challa didn't do it.
I wouldn't be surprised if T'Challa keeping Zemo alive will be a topic of contention in the BP film.
on what grounds can the avengers,usa and shield get in his way in apprehending bucky? i though bp was to drop every avenger that got in his way, kick bucky ass, take him back to wakanda for questioning. he is an African king, he should not have this road blocks
I think they made the right call by having T'Challa spare his life.
Audiences expect these movie superheroes to act like cops (are supposed to): Apprehending the bad guys and bringing them to justice, only killing in self-defense, etc.
Zemo was weak as a kitten compared to Black Panther. If T'Challa had just slaughtered him as he sat there helpless, it wouldn't have looked good.
Again, they couldn't have that happen because Bucky was actually innocent and Black Panther is not a villain.
They had to come up with interruptions to keep BP from actually capturing him. By creating situations where BP has to stop to avoid hurting local police, to situations where Bucky runs away, to situations where Cap jumps in between or Scarlet Witch uses her magic, all made sense as ways to keep them apart while still making it clear that BP is the stronger character.
wakanda has been a bubbling cauldron hence why there are even Dora's in the first place to keep the peace between tribes...the homo stuff I agree with however 
Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
Indeed, Wakanda been having tribe issues many times, throughout almost all of BP's publication history. Part of the BP and ruler's job is to keep the peace between all the tribes. If we see some tension among some of the tribes of Wakanda, its just keeping in line with the comics.
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Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
And to be fair to the audience, this was their very first introduction to BP. A very strong majority of those viewers have never read a single BP comic book.
Comic book BP would most likely kill Zemo though. Zemo didn't just kill T'Challa's father, he killed the King of Wakanda, a sitting head of state. One rarely walks away alive from that.