Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

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I'll bookmark this quote and come back and revisit this statement after the numbers and in and we will see how the margins are.

In the mean time I'll hedge my business cause everyone here is talking like this is sealed and done!
Who? Where? :why:

You're imagining things.
 

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The polls are tightening. Trouble is brewing. This needed to be a blowout and its clearly not going to be. Looking like a toss up which is insane given how Trump fukked up COVID.

It was never going to be a blowout, as you have a diehard fanbase for Trump in the High 30's Range of Voters.

It's really all about turnout. You can have many polls, and debates, but it's about the votes in the end.

Though Biden really should debate Trump, as I think he would do well while Trump would change the subject trying to avoid topics.
 

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If the undecideds was high, I'd be sounding an alarm. But Biden is still hitting 50% in all these polls with like 7% undecided. And the pollsters are weighing by education.

Trump is nowhere near 50% approval rating on the averages.

He had to win undecideds and the 'I HATE BOTH CANDIDATES' demo to barely win MI, WI, PA.

Everyone in here has 2016 PTSD.

I must admit, I do too. :damn:
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So let me get this straight, on Thursday night there was practically no sports especially major professional sports..... people hate watch all kinds of stuff all the time......... his base loves when he speaks...... it was being aired on the major broadcast and cable news networks and Trump still got outdrawn by Biden.

Trump is out here lying to white people to their face, he’s trying to scare them, and they are still leaving in droves. We see lifelong Republicans with viral videos, Facebook posts and on television jumping ship. Just about any Republican politician out of power/retired riding with Biden.

But we are going to keep looking at pools that ask likely voters who are overwhelmingly white their choice and Biden is still up 6% in battleground states even calculating the campaign bounce?

We want Joe to talk the Kenosha PD (especially after I just saw a white guy who’s son was killed by them in 2004 and is still seeking justice) instead of letting Trump go and have them lick his balls and he gets in his bag and fukks it all up for them in the end?

And we’re already hitting the panic button instead of letting this play out for a little bit? I would like to think we at least give the campaign a little bit of a leash to attempt to bring it back.
 

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The democrats have the same problem in the electoral college that they have in the house. In order to win, they got to get a margin greater than +5 nationally. The only good news is that anything after that quickly turns into a blowout in most scenarios, as we saw in 2018.
Well yes and no

Obama won popular vote by 3.9% and had a comfortable electoral college victory.

It’s really all about winning in the Midwest.
 

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Well yes and no

Obama won popular vote by 3.9% and had a comfortable electoral college victory.

It’s really all about winning in the Midwest.
Obama did that while losing Texas by 16, Georgia by 8, and only winning Virginia by 4 because his margin in the midwest was more democratic compared to where the country voted.

By comparison Hillary lost by 9 and 5 in Texas and Georgia, won by 5 in Virginia, while still getting +2 and 227 in the EC as the midwest states trended to the right of where the country voted. You could easily get a repeat of 2016 with +4 nationally as Democrats have plenty of room to grow in Virginia, New Mexico, Nevada, and Colorado, and grow while still losing in former heavy republican areas like Texas, Georgia, Arizona, NE02, and even Alaska, South Carolina, and Montana.

Long story short, if Biden replicates Obama 2012 map, he will more than likely win by more than 4 nationally because all signs are pointing to midwest once again being more to the right of the national vote.
 

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Obama did that while losing Texas by 16, Georgia by 8, and only winning Virginia by 4 because his margin in the midwest was more democratic compared to where the country voted.

By comparison Hillary lost by 9 and 5 in Texas and Georgia, won by 5 in Virginia, while still getting +2 and 227 in the EC as the midwest states trended to the right of where the country voted. You could easily get a repeat of 2016 with +4 nationally as Democrats have plenty of room to grow in Virginia, New Mexico, Nevada, and Colorado, and grow while still losing in former heavy republican areas like Texas, Georgia, Arizona, NE02, and even Alaska, South Carolina, and Montana.

Long story short, if Biden replicates Obama 2012 map, he will more than likely win by more than 4 nationally because all signs are pointing to midwest once again being more to the right of the national vote.

Hillary won popular vote by 2%.

Won Minnesota by 1.5%.

Lost Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania by less than 1% in each.

Lost Florida by 1.5%.

:patrice:
 

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Hillary won popular vote by 2%.

Won Minnesota by 1.5%.

Lost Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania by less than 1% in each.

Lost Florida by 1.5%.

:patrice:
What I'm saying is that Trump could easily keep these same numbers while losing the popular vote by a bigger margin than he did in 2016. If Biden wins them by 1 or 2 points this time, his national vote lead will be bigger than Obama's because he's set to outpace Obama in other states. I guess the real point I'm trying to make is that we should abolish the EC because it's puts Democrats in a position where they have to go beyond just being the majority to secure a victory, while republicans can continuously backdoor their way into wins.
 

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Send a 77 year old man on a full campaign schedule during a pandemic where age is the biggest factor for death brehs. :troll:

See videos of Biden in DC, Minnesota, Delaware, Houston but claim he's been sitting in the house for 6 months brehs.
Been hearing this biden in the basement by a lot of people the past week. Just goes to show you the power of the media. A couple heads say the same thing and then it becomes the narrative :francis: got brehs in here saying the same thing. Was talking to my father in law the other day and he said the same basement shyt. Everyone’s being impatient.
 
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