Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

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Even the Democratic party itself wanted the party and the next president to move in a different direction/focus than Obama, so what makes you think that Hilary would run on extending Obama's platform? :mjlol:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-hope-the-next-president-does-it-differently/

In the new poll, 30 percent of Democrats want the next president to take the country in a new direction — a figure that matches up neatly with the average of Democratic primary voters who said in exit polls that they hoped the next president would be more liberal than Obama. (Nearly 7 in 10 of those voters backed Bernie Sanders.) Thirteen percent of Democrats wanted a less liberal president than Obama.

Obama's net approval among Democrats right now is plus-78, compared with plus-59 net favorability for Clinton from his party in 2000. The figures among Republicans for Bush were plus-63 approval rating in 2004 and a brutally low plus-38 in 2008. Obama is more popular than those presidents, generally, thanks in part to how positively his party views him.

But while Democrats were 46 points more likely to support staying the course that Clinton set in 2000 and Republicans were 45 points more likely to seek the same from Bush four years later, Democrats are only 33 points more likely to want to continue the path that Obama has set than to seek a new path forward.
 

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You got it, breh :beli:
You literally posted a bunch of articles of Obama himself campaigning for an extension of his policies..which would make complete sense because he believed in his platform. That does not in anyway mean that Hillary was going to run her campaign in that fashion, everyone including a third of the democratic establishment wanted to pivot away from Obama's platform.

The proof is in the fact that the most popular Democratic candidate in 2016 was Bernie Sanders. That's also part of the reason that the Democratic establishment, Obama included, is so upset with Bernie because they feel like he hijacked their moderate platform and put the "socialist" stink on it.

Hillary wanted a moderate presidency but she didn't have any intentions of carrying over Obama's entire agenda.
 

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You literally posted a bunch of articles of Obama himself campaigning for an extension of his policies..which would make complete sense because he believed in his platform. That does not in anyway mean that Hillary was going to run her campaign in that fashion, everyone including a third of the democratic establishment wanted to pivot away from Obama's platform.

The proof is in the fact that the most popular Democratic candidate in 2016 was Bernie Sanders. That's also part of the reason that the Democratic establishment, Obama included, is so upset with Bernie because they feel like he hijacked their moderate platform and put the "socialist" stink on it.

Hillary wanted a moderate presidency but she didn't have any intentions of carrying over Obama's entire agenda.
Hillary was running to be Obama's 3rd term. However, of course, since Hillary is not Obama she was going to have her own unique policies. What's hard to not understand?

Al Gore in 2000 was running to be Bill Clinton's 3rd term. George H.W. Bush in 1988 was running to be Reagan's 3rd term. That's how it works. It doesn't mean that everything was going to be the same or that Gore/Bush 41 were going to be carbon copies of Clinton/Reagan.

However, you got it breh :hubie:
 

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What were the major differences?

There are a lot of similarities and overlap in their ideology on major topics, there were also a number of people from within Obama's administration who were a part of her campaign, this was by design. Obama was invested in a Democrat succeeding him and Hilary knew it was not smart to distance herself too far from him and risk losing big support from the party. This is why you have several posters here who believe that she was intentionally running a campaign as his third term. But there were things that she would not openly take a position on which leads to believe she felt differently about, Keystone Pipeline, TPP and Medicare for-all.

The big difference between the two is in foreign policy (she's more heavy handed), taxes and regulations on Wall Street (she wouldn't push very hard, he would only push a little further past her - neither of them seemed to really want to engage the Street) and the Presidency itself (he believed in his cabinet and officials having more autonomy, while she believed in being very involved and "micromanaging").
 

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The day Biden announced his presidency, I posted the comment below before I was viciously attacked by a Bernie Bro.

MSNBC showing him retail politicking in Delaware. Walking down the street, buying pizza, black/white coming up to him hugging. Everybody knows him and he's a beast at this.

Now peep the video below. @wire28 we tried to tell 'em. Scranton Joe is the retail king. :wow:

 

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Hillary was running to be Obama's 3rd term. However, of course, since Hillary is not Obama she was going to have her own unique policies. What's hard to not understand?

Al Gore in 2000 was running to be Bill Clinton's 3rd term. George H.W. Bush in 1988 was running to be Reagan's 3rd term. That's how it works. It doesn't mean that everything was going to be the same or that Gore/Bush 41 were going to be carbon copies of Clinton/Reagan.

However, you got it breh :hubie:

From what I remember Gore was trying to distance himself from Clinton until the tail end of the campaign.
 
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