Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

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I'm saying in general I think the rallies will do him more good than harm

and i also think they'll get desperate enough to resort to wild social media manipulations if they not closing the gap.
:dahell: How so? People not going to his rallies means not many cacs fukkin with him like last time. You on that @acri1 shyt right now.

They hyped the shyt outta this rally making it seem like it was gon be a super bowl level event. No one even showed up to the overflow area:heh:

fukk it ima see how I can cop a biden campaign posterboard and put it up in my area. :win:
 

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:mjgrin: Eat brehs

Goddammit!

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:mjgrin: Eat brehs

Initial thoughts - Bolton is an imperialist. It's about power and submission for him. The world is only black and white. People like him leading America's foreign policy is part of the reason why shyt is so fukked up today.

Trump is clueless. A child in a man's body.

A very uncomfortable read.

“I want out before January 20. Do it fast.” He then turned to his visits to Walter Reed, where
the wounded soldiers had not had the impact on Trump they have on most
people, impressing them with their bravery and commitment to their
mission. Trump had simply been horrified by the seriousness of their
wounds (oblivious also that advances in military medicine saved many men
who would simply have died in earlier wars).

“Okay, you ready?” Trump asked no one in particular, but using this
favorite phrase indicating something big was coming. “Say we have been
there for eighteen years. We did a great job. If anybody comes here, they
will be met like never before. That’s what we say,” he said, although Trump
then expanded the withdrawal to include Iraq, Syria, and Yemen. Then
Trump came back at Mattis: “I gave you what you asked for. Unlimited
authority, no holds barred. You’re losing. You’re getting your ass kicked.
You failed.” This painful repetition demonstrates that Trump, who endlessly
stresses he is the only one who makes decisions, had trouble taking
responsibility for them.
“Can we delay it [the withdrawal] so we don’t lose more men and
diplomats?” Mattis asked.
Trump roared back, “We can’t afford it. We’ve failed. If it were turning
out differently, I wouldn’t do it.

The Brennan security clearance fiasco

Kelly said he had had an argument with Trump about it, not the first such
confrontation, but one that had obviously been harsher than previous ones.
Kelly told Trump it was “not presidential,” which was true, and he told me
it was “Nixonian,” also true. “Has there ever been a presidency like this?”
Kelly asked me, and I assured him there had not. I thought there was a case
against Brennan for politicizing the CIA, but Trump had obscured it by the
blatantly political approach he took. It would only get worse if more
clearances were lifted. Kelly agreed


In what by this point was already an emotional discussion for both of us,
Kelly showed me a picture of his son, killed in Afghanistan in 2010. Trump
had referred to him earlier that day, saying to Kelly, “You suffered the
worst.” Since Trump was disparaging the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq at
the time, he had seemingly implied that Kelly’s son had died needlessly.
“Trump doesn’t care what happens to these guys,” Kelly said. “He says it
would be ‘cool’ to invade Venezuela.” I said relatively little during the
conversation, which was mostly Kelly venting his frustrations, very few of
which I disagreed with. I couldn’t see how it was possible he would stay
through the 2020 elections, though Trump had announced a few weeks
before that he would. When I left Kelly’s office, I said nothing to anyone
else.

This men realised the bullshyt at play and did nothing.

All traitors
 
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We debated whether Trump himself would read the statement from the
White House podium or whether we would just release the text. “This will
divert from Ivanka,” Trump said. “If I read the statement in person, this will
take over the Ivanka thing.” (The “Ivanka thing” was a flood of stories
about Ivanka’s extensive use of her personal e-mail for government
business, which the White House was trying to explain was actually quite
different from Hillary Clinton’s extensive use of her personal e-mail for
government business.) “Goddamn it, why didn’t she change her phone?”
Trump complained. “What a mess we have because of that phone.”

In hard-nosed geopolitical terms, Trump’s was the only sensible
approach. No one excused Khashoggi’s murder, and few doubted it was a
serious mistake. Whether or not you liked Saudi Arabia, the monarchy,
Mohammed bin Salman, or Khashoggi, we had significant US national
interests at stake. Withdrawing support would immediately trigger
countervailing efforts by our adversaries in the region to exploit the
situation to our detriment.

:gucci: act like it was the phone's fault brehs
 

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In an October 2019 interview, in the midst of the Ukraine impeachment
crisis, Kelly said he had told Trump, “Whatever you do—and we were still
in the process of trying to find someone to take my place—I said whatever
you do, don’t hire a ‘yes man,’ someone who won’t tell you the truth—
don’t do that. Because if you do, I believe you will be impeached.”7
Trump
flatly denied Kelly had made such a statement: “John Kelly never said that,
he never said anything like that. If he would have said that I would have
thrown him out of the office. He just wants to come back into the action like
everybody else does.”8 And Stephanie Grisham, previously one of the First
Lady’s Furies, now White House press secretary, pronounced ex cathedra,
“I worked with John Kelly, and he was totally unequipped to handle the
genius of our great President.”9 These quotes speak volumes about the
people who uttered them.
With Kelly’s departure and Mulvaney’s appointment, all effective efforts
at managing the Executive Office of the President ceased. Both domestic
policy strategy and political strategy, never strong suits, all but disappeared;
personnel decisions deteriorated further, and the general chaos spread. The
crisis over Ukraine followed. There was a lot of evidence that Kelly’s
hypothesis was entirely correct.


What a mess
 

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I'm saying in general I think the rallies will do him more good than harm

and i also think they'll get desperate enough to resort to wild social media manipulations if they not closing the gap.
I’m all for pessimism on this election but there isn’t a single W he can pull from last night.
 
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