Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

Tony D'Amato

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Who are the "right BLACKS"? :patrice:


Also, this is dangerous rhetoric with Trump in the White House. Some of these Black celebrities (not saying Cube specifically) never "demanded" anything beforehand but now with Trump in the White House, they wanna play this "EARN OUR VOTE" sh!t :unimpressed:
Exactly. And they can afford to hold their vote. But 4more yrs of Trump... SMH
 

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Who are the "right BLACKS"? :patrice:


Also, this is dangerous rhetoric with Trump in the White House. Some of these Black celebrities (not saying Cube specifically) never "demanded" anything beforehand but now with Trump in the White House, they wanna play this "EARN OUR VOTE" sh!t :unimpressed:


Yea most of these celebrities ain't living like us regular people.
 

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Another thing that always has me :mjlol: @Trump is what he probably thinks his MAGA squad is, and how they are really looking.
In his mind those are probably some 6 5 ultra brolic, fully tatted, powerlifiting, cigar smoking, whisky drinking bikers riding around the country on their harleys with 2 golden colts on each side.
In reality everytime I hear of them/see them its dudes like that fat wannabe legolas at the protest who got stomped out like a dusty carpet & his truck set on fire. :dead:

that's what most of those maga fakkits project themselves to be, especially on the web. it's pure fantasy land shyt. always talking tough about "liberal soy-boy beta cucks" and shyt as if they are some kind of triumph of masculinity.

when in reality, look how manly and intimidating they are:

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:whoa:
 

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that's what most of those maga fakkits project themselves to be, especially on the web. it's pure fantasy land shyt. always talking tough about "liberal soy-boy beta cucks" and shyt as if they are some kind of triumph of masculinity.

when in reality, look how manly and intimidating they are:

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fat-trump-supporter.jpg


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:whoa:


Its funny how stupid these people are. Trump wouldnt have gotten caught dead with any of these people before running for President or let them into any of his businesses.

The second he's out of the White House, he's gonna revert back to publicly being revolted by these people.
 

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Many Democratic leaders were irate in 2016 over what they saw as Bernie Sanders’ failure to fully get behind Hillary Clinton and work hard to get her elected.

Four years later, they’re heaping praise on the Vermont senator and his top brass for their efforts to put Joe Biden in the White House.


Sanders dropped out of the primary months earlier than he did in 2016, swiftly and wholeheartedly endorsed Biden, and set up policy task forces with him. Despite opposition from fellow progressives, senior Sanders aides have created super PACs to support Biden. And in an effort to avoid a repeat of the unruly Democratic National Convention during the last presidential election, Sanders’ team has told some of the delegates representing him there to sign a pledge swearing off attacks on Biden and other party leaders.


It has not gone unnoticed.

“Sen. Sanders has been a tremendous force in helping unify the party,” said Neera Tanden, president of the liberal think tank Center for American Progress and a longtime Hillary Clinton aide who has been a vocal critic of Sanders in the past. “I am grateful for his work to urge his supporters to support Biden and fight Trump. He knows the stakes of this election, has always said he will support the nominee, and has been a man of his word.”

The moves by Sanders and his advisers come as Biden is struggling to win over young people, progressives and Latinos, who represented key blocs of Sanders’ base in the primary.

Throughout the primary, Sanders vowed to back the eventual Democratic nominee. His former aides said his current efforts reflect the fact that he badly wants to defeat Trump and personally likes Biden despite their policy differences. A person who spoke with Sanders shortly after Trump’s election in 2016 said he “expressed a high level of frustration that he could only do so much” and “he was very, very frustrated with the people who were continually blaming him” for Clinton’s loss.

Sanders and Clinton never enjoyed a good rapport, and several Sanders staffers said they felt disrespected by the Clinton team in 2016. Two top aides said they had not been consulted about their primary victories in the critical swing states of Wisconsin and Michigan, which Clinton went on to lose in the general election.

Nick Merrill, a spokesman for Clinton, said her campaign hired several staffers from Sanders’ team and “f they had some secret plan for winning Wisconsin, there were infinite avenues by which to convey it.”

Some of Sanders’ allies, in explaining why they formed outside groups to help elect Biden but declined to go that far for Clinton, said they did not expect Trump to win in 2016.

“Many of us who believed that Donald Trump could win in 2016 also believed that Hillary Clinton would win. And that has proven to not be the case,” said Jeff Weaver, Sanders’ longtime adviser and friend who created America’s Progressive Promise, a pro-Biden super PAC. “I feel a great responsibility having worked in this progressive space for 35 years — my entire adult life — at the side of Bernie Sanders to make sure that we stop what is happening in this country.”

America’s Progressive Promise is looking to kick off an eight-week campaign in June aimed at strengthening Biden’s standing among Sanders voters ahead of the party convention, according to a slide show for donors obtained by POLITICO. The group hopes to follow that with efforts in the fall to mobilize young voters, Latinos and liberals, in part by highlighting Biden’s “progressive kitchen-table agenda,” trying to “cut off and undermine third-party alternatives,” and stressing the stakes of the election on climate change. The fundraising deck, first reported by Mother Jones, lists a sample budget of $20 million for TV ads, digital spots, direct mail and other strategies in the battleground states of Arizona, Wisconsin and Michigan.

Dmitri Mehlhorn, a mainstream Democratic donor and top adviser to LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman, said his contributor network is in talks with Weaver’s super PAC and “definitely considering” giving to it.

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Bernie Sanders endorses Joe Biden for president during a live streaming broadcast in April. | JoeBiden.com via Getty Images


“It’s a good pitch,” he said. “It’s quite clear that Biden’s electoral coalition is diverse, and so it’s a good idea to have a dedicated focus on the Bernie part of it, and he’s a good person to do that.”

The super PAC’s focus on fostering party unity before the convention underscores how important it is to Sanders’ orbit to prevent a replica of 2016, when Sanders’ supporters even booed Sanders himself when he rallied for Clinton at the convention.

Gregory McKelvey, an Oregon-based Sanders supporter who ran to be one of his delegates, said a Sanders aide told him over the phone that if they see anything about “DemExit” or “Never Joe” on a person’s social media accounts “then you are out” as a delegate.

“They don’t want a messy convention,” he said. “They don’t want the movement to look bad.”

The policy task forces formed by Biden and Sanders, which include high-profile Democratic politicians such as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and former presidential nominee John Kerry, are crafting proposals to deliver to Biden and the party platform committee before the convention. Sanders’ wife, Jane, has played a “central role” in the development of the task forces, according to a person familiar with her work.


Some Democrats complain privately that Sanders still isn’t doing everything he can to support Biden, noting that he hasn’t turned over his prized email list or fundraised for Biden. A handful of former aides, such as Sanders’ former national press secretary Briahna Joy Gray, have also remained publicly critical of Biden, even as their former boss campaigns for him.

Faiz Shakir, Sanders’ 2020 campaign manager, said that it is possible that Sanders could eventually fundraise for Biden if he announces more progressive policy positions or personnel, which he is hopeful will happen.

“People have to be brought along on the journey,” he said of Sanders’ supporters and small-dollar donors. “For those of us who care about it being effective and valuable as an approach, Joe Biden also has to do some things to kind of earn that support. We want that relationship to be built, not kind of forced and cajoled in a manner that might backfire."

Gray said in an email that she is “pushing for Joe Biden to be responsive to the exigent needs of the vulnerable populations he's relying on to put him in office — including Black Americans” and currently “he is falling far short.” Asked if the Sanders campaign has asked her to support Biden or limit her criticism of him, she said it has not.

Though holdouts such as Gray give them heartburn, Democratic insiders said they appear to be in the minority of ex-Sanders aides.

Like Weaver, former senior Sanders adviser Chuck Rocha created a super PAC aimed at electing Biden, at least in part. Nuestro PAC is working to drum up support for the former vice president and down-ballot candidates among Latino voters in swing states. Rocha said he has millions in commitments from donors and expects to begin campaigning in states in the next 30 days.

“The level and breadth of engagement shows how deeply Sen. Sanders, his staff and supporters who are involved in efforts to help V.P. Biden recognize what we learned in 2016: Democrats can’t take anything for granted when it comes to the urgency of defeating Trump,” said Karen Finney, Clinton’s spokesperson during the 2016 campaign.

Biden’s team has also been heartened by the efforts of Sanders and his advisers.

"Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders are friends and share a steadfast belief that we need a government that will deliver for working families,” said Andrew Bates, Biden’s rapid response director. “Sen. Sanders and his team have been extraordinary partners in offering advice and support on the biggest challenges of our day, such as overcoming climate change and rebuilding the American middle class — especially after the COVID-19 outbreak.”


Despite Sanders’ efforts, though, some of his former aides are not sure he'll be successful in persuading the most hardcore anti-Biden voters in his coalition.

“These people don’t listen to anyone,” said Kurt Ehrenberg, Sanders’ past longtime political adviser in New Hampshire. “They just don’t believe in that argument that a little bit better is better. They’re through with that. And I get it, I get it. … There’s just some people who are going to vote for Ralph Nader every time.”
 

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i remember bill maher said we need bernie because his supporters are the ones who are willing to get out and fight in the street :dead:

could come true tho :huhldup:
I imagine most of the protesters right now were bernie supporters.
They just didnt have the same energy for the voting booths.
 
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