Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

[Payday23]

Democrats were between a rock and a hard place after the protests began. You can't ignore the obvious popular movement against police brutality, but at the same time it makes you vulnerable with most americans who are obsessed with "supporting the police" - even if they want some reform done.

it was never going to be easy to put out a comprehensive, nuanced approach to police reform while republicans whole constituency is against police reform and can just drag you through the mud with the lawless angle and "they want to defund the police!" which no democrats ran on in moderate or light-red districts anyway

now that democrats are gonna have the White House and the Justice Department they have the opportunity to set an example for what police reform should look like. its very important they control the message before republicans set it for them

Most Americans have zero issue with cops. No matter what they do. You're exactly right about messaging

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

Esper resigning, I wouldnt what Trump asked him to do.

this could get ugly

 

[Lootpack]

 

[Kenny West]

They are going at it on the House caucus call.

I tend to agree with Spanberger, especially when it comes to these TX races in the DFW/Houston suburbs. For weeks, Dem candidates were getting bombarded with negative ads about Defund the Police and Socialism/AOC/Bernie. Dems underperformed in all of them.

These people are so full of shyt.

They mad at "socialist" being a black mark used on them as if they didnt pioneer those exact smears these past 4 years.

The same disingenuous stooges who spent millions flooding the airwaves with "socialist this" "Communist that" Smears against legit challengers in February are now like "Now they're calling ME a socialist! " in November once Repubs rebranded their slander.

When you branded sensible improvements to healthcare as "socialism" in the primaries, dont be surprised if the hick repubs they covet in the general can't tell the difference

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

Most Americans have zero issue with cops. No matter what they do. You're exactly right about messaging

shyt would be so much easier if it wasnt for this police hero worship

 

[mastermind]

If you have to market and explain a slogan you already lost. What’s wrong with a simple Reform The Police

Because police reform has been a thing for 40 years. IDK what world you dudes live in. The police didn't just start being a problem in 2020.

But what I said earlier is the Dems need to work with their activists. Instead, Dems fear them.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

i think when this is all done Wisconsin will be the tipping point

 

[folasade]

Exactly. Barack Hussein Obama was called a Communist, radical, Muslim leftist nikka and he beat a white war hero and a white millionaire businessman. We gotta dead that scary talk. People respect boldness and conviction.

Obama isn't a great example. Most poliiticians do not possess the skill, team, and talent as Obama to do well even with those claims.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

She is a DINO. Her campaign ad the she aired on TV the last month never mentioned her party or any DNC platform issues.

She is one of those that would be a Republican if they weren't racist and sexist.




Now I know the district she in, but this is who the Democrats listens too. Someone who can't mention her party or any Dem platform beliefs.

“I took on terrorists. I’ll take on my own party.”

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

let them fight

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I can’t take you serious if you’re entertaining the notion that the defund issue which was nowhere in the Democratic platform was some sort of breaking point lmao. Support for Black Lives Matter rose at the same time that term was entering the conversation. No Democrat ran on it where it wasn’t safe and politics is local.

i can't take people serious who can't admit that this shyt bubbled from the local level and conveniently got attached to the dem pary, platform or not. the reality is, cities are dem enclaves, often dem led, and many "sympathetic" leaders actually have come to the table to discuss "defund"...out here, berkeley actually approved defunding their police.

when you see this happening at the local level, some members of congress supporting it, and the noisy media obscuring the meaning and attaching it to the dem party nationally, it doesn't matter if they ran on it or not, it becomes a general belief like dems being pro life. no it's not the only reason people lost, but that perception of dems being soft on crime and movement like this certainly can sway swing districts.

this is a failing of progressives, yes, the policy is good/right, but the wording is wrong, but because the policy is right, they won't accept critique or pushback that it's not landing because of how it's framed.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

AOC

 

[choc_cardigan]

AOC

No one gives a fukk about nobodies you post.

 

[Paper Boi]

yall really need to take the squad and bernie vs the libs shyt to another thread.

this about trump vs biden