Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

JetFueledThoughts

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But it's eff the police on the coil man. Dem voters need to stop acting scary imo. Talking about police reform shouldn't be bad.

It’s literally the word ‘Defund’. The average American doesn’t have the intelligence or nuance to listen to a whole explanation of police reform, better training, diversifying money for social workers, etc.

Half of America tunes out before they even read that whole sentence.

Something as simple as a WORD like Defund can unravel shyt. I remember Bush called John Kerry a ‘flip flopper’ and that shyt stuck the whole election cycle.
 

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No the problem is Dumbfukk leftists don't understand how to talk about their policies without using shyt ass phrases like

DEFUND THE POLICE

that they later have to finesse for nuance and explain.

In politics if you're explaining you're losing.

But the Cosplay Socialists don't want to hear that. Same with their embarrassing "LatinX" shyt that eses hear and go :comeon:
The Democratic Party will turn socially more towards the right post-2020. Its inevitable.
 

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Debbie mucarsel Powell and Donna shalala were the reps of the areas my fam in Miami live. Sad to see Debbie go for that fekkit gimenez
Folk got to realize you are going to lose good folk in a battle that will shape the future, just losing some for the greater good of all..
 
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You don’t win seats in red / moderate districts with the slogan Defund the Police. That shouldn’t be debatable

Phrasing / storytelling is more important than substance when it comes to winning. Average voter doesn’t live and breathe this stuff

Having said that I don’t know if that really made the difference or was the sole factor as people may have still voted Repub down ballot
 

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I can’t take you serious if you’re entertaining the notion that the defund issue which was nowhere in the Democratic platform was some sort of breaking point lmao. Support for Black Lives Matter rose at the same time that term was entering the conversation. No Democrat ran on it where it wasn’t safe and politics is local.


It's convenient and the bargain basement excuse for dems to blame the left for all Ls taken.
 

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You don’t win seats in red / moderate districts with the slogan Defund the Police. That shouldn’t be debatable

Phrasing / storytelling is more important than substance when it comes to winning. Average voter doesn’t live and breathe this stuff
Max Rose literally lost his house seat because of that...

He attended one BLM protest and Staten Island CACs freaked out labeling him anti-police...
 
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The real problem is that that they're always on defense and never on offense. They let Republican talking points dictate the discussion.

Republicans are gonna fearmonger about socialism and shyt regardless of what they do.


I forget who actually said it in here, but it was brilliant point made that I never even considered that Joseph McCarthy may have done more to destroy real reform coming from electoral politics than anybody in American history. That piece of shyt devil has been dead over 60 years and we still have to tip toe over language and policy proposals because of the "socialist" bogeyman.

And another Edward Murrow ain't coming through that door on CNN or MSNBC at any point in our lifetimes.

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The Democratic Party will turn socially more towards the right post-2020. Its inevitable.

I don't know about that.

It's more that we still have too many who don't know how to effectively communicate. Leftist politics CAN work, but not if you constantly tax the fukking brains of Joe Lunchpail. Fit it on a bumper sticker and not require a fukking glossary and footnotes. Hell, Trump and others on the right steal rebrand and lie with them. Sacha Baron Cohen parodies these types of leftists and he's spot on.
 
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