Uncle Phil 36
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Completely agree, i think even Biden has said that he is a transitional President. To get Trump out and hand it over to whoever else in 2024.
Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)
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Completely agree, i think even Biden has said that he is a transitional President. To get Trump out and hand it over to whoever else in 2024.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
Does the Democratic Party think like this? You think grooming Buttigieg to be next is that? Or bringing in Kamala or the Amazing Amy?
We can remove Trump from office, not do anything over the next four years and alienate a group of citizens even more and watch someone smarter and scarier than Trump win.
We damn near saw this between 2008 and 2016 and Obama did the minimum. I understand what the stakes are this go ‘round, but the long term plan should not be normalcy.
Breh, I'm not Tom Perez. I can't answer that question for you.
I am telling you that we are trying to stop an aspiring authoritarian first. I hope Democrats are developing something for 2024 but that's not where I'm at right now.
give this one a watch
trump is gonna be a shell of himself after 5 months of this
exactly, only way trump wins is a disengaged, segmented democrat base leading to low dem voter turnout
this past week has done the complete opposite of that, and has cemented his L come november. nobody forgetting this shyt
given demographics, equal rep/dem turnout = easy dem win....and so trump’s only possible strategy is to rely on high voter turnout of his base and a low dem voter turnout (and doing whatever possible to encourage that low dem turnout). its not like anyone who has ever thought of voting dem will vote for trump in 2020. and so it’s just amazing how much he’s completely fukked up the only remotely possible winning strategy he had in just the past week
the cac mamba
Veteran
plus he just posted this
BK The Great
Veteran
give this one a watch
trump is gonna be a shell of himself after 5 months of this
It’s like something out of a movie.
Uncle Phil 36
All Star
I think 2024 will be a wide open primary with a lot of big names running. I doubt even Biden's VP makes it through and wins that nom.
I would think names like AOC, Gavin Newsom, Andrew Cuomo, Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, Joe Kennedy III, Eric Garcetti, Stacey Abrams at the minimum could enter.
Not including any new names and hopefully some minority names that will come up between then.
the cac mamba
Veteran
honestly, if biden wins and we spend the next 4 years trying to heal, then 2024 is gonna be a historic, "where does the country go from here" kinda election. a complete reset for both the dems and repubs. and demographics are getting worse for the repubs by the day
a young, dynamic democrat ticket in 2024 could crush whatever shytbag ted cruz/nikki haley ticket the repubs end up running
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
2020 was a wide open primary too
Uncle Phil 36
All Star
Not really, theres a lot of people that don't want to run against a siting president. Much harder to run against an incumbent. Which is a big reason the field was pretty trash.
give this one a watch
trump is gonna be a shell of himself after 5 months of this
My first thoughts when the protest started on top of Corona and depression era unemployment was about his inauguration speech.
iceberg_is_on_fire
Wearing Lions gear when it wasn't cool
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-photo-op-thats-why-im-resigning/?arc404=true
June 2, 2020
Hon. Mark T. Esper
Secretary of Defense
The Pentagon
Washington, D.C., 20301
Dear Secretary Esper,
I resign from the Defense Science Board, effective immediately.
When I joined the Board in early 2014, after leaving government service as Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, I again swore an oath of office, one familiar to you, that includes the commitment to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States . . . and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same.”
You recited that same oath on July 23, 2019, when you were sworn in as Secretary of Defense. On Monday, June 1, 2020, I believe that you violated that oath. Law-abiding protesters just outside the White House were dispersed using tear gas and rubber bullets — not for the sake of safety, but to clear a path for a presidential photo op. You then accompanied President Trump in walking from the White House to St. John’s Episcopal Church for that photo.
President Trump’s actions Monday night violated his oath to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed,” as well as the First Amendment “right of the people peaceably to assemble.” You may not have been able to stop President Trump from directing this appalling use of force, but you could have chosen to oppose it. Instead, you visibly supported it.
Anyone who takes the oath of office must decide where he or she will draw the line: What are the things that they will refuse to do? Secretary Esper, you have served honorably for many years, in active and reserve military duty, as Secretary of the Army, and now as Secretary of Defense. You must have thought long and hard about where that line should be drawn. I must now ask: If last night’s blatant violations do not cross the line for you, what will?
Unfortunately, it appears there may be few if any lines that President Trump is not willing to cross, so you will probably be faced with this terrible question again in the coming days. You may be asked to take, or to direct the men and women serving in the U.S. military to take, actions that further undermine the Constitution and harm Americans.
As a concerned citizen, and as a former senior defense official who cares deeply about the military, I urge you to consider closely both your future actions and your future words. For example, some could interpret literally your suggestion to the nation’s governors Monday that they need to “dominate the battlespace.” I cannot believe that you see the United States as a “battlespace,” or that you believe our citizens must be “dominated.” Such language sends an extremely dangerous signal.
You have made life-and-death decisions in combat overseas; soon you may be asked to make life-and-death decisions about using the military on American streets and against Americans. Where will you draw the line, and when will you draw it?
I hope this letter of resignation will encourage you to again contemplate the obligations you undertook in your oath of office, as well as your obligations to the men and women in our military and other Americans whose lives may be at stake. In the event that at least some other senior officials may be inclined to ask these questions after reading this letter, I am making it public.
I wish you the best, in very difficult times. The sanctity of the U.S. Constitution, and the lives of Americans, may depend on your choices.
Sincerely,
James N. Miller
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
Are you joking? There were 20 candidates in the field.