Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

DonKnock

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AOC in a national election :mjlol:

Have u seen what we all saw last night:mindblown:. Middle America and those Florida and Texas Hispanics and Latins is not fukking with Progressives. I hate it buts its obvious:manny:

Bernie would have got demolished last night if he won the nomination this cycle:francis:
What progressive was in this race for them to not fucc with? Bernie crushed Joe with Latinos
 

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The tone change on Fox News. :wow:

Now they moved to Mail and Voting Fraud :mjlol: instead of Trump victory.
i will say this; with the republicans holding the senate, the silver lining will be an unwillingness to go along with trumps bullshyt

their apocalypse scenario was the dems taking all 3 branches. but with republicans keeping the senate, that takes the temperature down from civil war to "oh well, i was tired of trump anyway" for about half of republicans, and certainly mainstream republicans and fox news

once biden wins, and mitch is still leader, we're gonna see a collective unspoken agreement to move the fukk on as a country
 

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For the record, AOC cant run in 2024, shes still too young. But you better believe there is an undercurrent of folks who hate the kumbaya dems. We want an attacker and that will rally people. The same way Trumps bravado has taken a lot of latino voters away. Dem media that cry and complain for year after year about what Trump is doing moves people to support him. It makes it APPEAR he is getting stuff done, even though he's not. Everyone would rally around an attacker from the Dems. Looks at how much praise these speeches get when Obama, Buttigeig, Warren goes in on Trump. We have to stop settling for these moderates and go left, hard left. This was a layup election with a president that did every single thing wrong and not only is the election still in jeopardy, we wont even get 4 seats in the senate for a majority. What more do people need to see?
GA, TX, NC, PA, FL were all in play and should have been blue. Stop all this moral victory crap, Dems lost those states and 45s support has grown nationwide because the people dems put out front are way too soft.
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"bu...bu..bu theyre gonna call you a socialist :sadcam:" SO-THE-FUKK-WHAT!!!! You already lost Florida and its trending away so these weak Dems aint getting it done. Even the rise in Dem voters is more-so due to Trump than Biden or anything the Dems are doing. Get tough and get the voting electorate back
 

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It's a reason why I hate politics...

IT'S LEGIT NO DIFFERENT FROM HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT BODY GOVERNMENT RACES

People vote for who they LIKE. They don't read the damn policy pages on the candidate's website :dead:

People hear things like "republican's like personal freedom, lower taxes, guns, religion"

and people are like :ehh: "I like that shyt too"

*republican's candidate steps on stage*

*Say's 5 words*

"This man got my vote ":wow:

Basically. I asked my black “don’t vote both sides are the same” cousin (I have three Trump supporting cousins :wow:) why he had issues with Joe Biden and the Democrats. He brought up the 94 Crime Bill and Biden making it harder for blacks to discharge student loans. I asked him how he felt about Betsy Devos then? He said who is Betsy Devos :wow:
 
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Not to derail with a Biden vs Bernie debate but they're not two easy candidates to compare. Bernie would have to deal with the socialism tag that stupid Americans fear but he's definitely more inspiring of a candidate than Biden whose whole appeal is hes the easiest to settle for. I'm pretty positive Biden still wins, but if the Dems don't go all in on inspiring new voters as opposed to trying to compete for who can be the more moderate party with the GOP then we're all fukked:francis:
 

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A few thoughts based on the last few pages:

- AOC appeals to young progressive liberals, she does not appeal to boomer aged moderates
- This election has shown how impt the Midwest is to Democrats. It's imperative to build a blue wall in the upper Midwest. Gretchen Whitmer as VP on 2024 ticket is not a terrible idea.
- Dems have to groom more moderate Latinos into visible roles. Beto's congressional record aligns as a moderate. Give him a cabinet position.
- Have to change the campaign strategy in FL after losing 2016 election, 2018 Senate seat, and 2020 election. I feel only a moderate and Latino can win the older, conservative demographic there.
- Philly came out in full force for the election yest & Joe campaigned in Philly yest bc he realized how impt PA was. How satisfying it would be if Philly saves the election for Dems after Trump said bad things happen in Philadelphia during one of the debates?
- Josh Hawley & Tom Cotton are positioning themselves for a run in 2024, but I wouldn't be surprised if Cotton gets the GOP nom based on him traveling with incumbent candidates and getting more visibility.

More thoughts later today.


Let's at least learn the lesson that Latinos are not a monolith

So what will nominating a Latino (just because they are a Latino) accomplish? Will a Mexican-American appeal to people with Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican etc. background?


What the dems need is a generational, charismatic political talent (JFK/Clinton/Obama), preferably a white guy
 

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A few thoughts based on the last few pages:

- AOC appeals to young progressive liberals, she does not appeal to boomer aged moderates
- This election has shown how impt the Midwest is to Democrats. It's imperative to build a blue wall in the upper Midwest. Gretchen Whitmer as VP on 2024 ticket is not a terrible idea.
- Dems have to groom more moderate Latinos into visible roles. Beto's congressional record aligns as a moderate. Give him a cabinet position.
- Have to change the campaign strategy in FL after losing 2016 election, 2018 Senate seat, and 2020 election. I feel only a moderate and Latino can win the older, conservative demographic there.
- Philly came out in full force for the election yest & Joe campaigned in Philly yest bc he realized how impt PA was. How satisfying it would be if Philly saves the election for Dems after Trump said bad things happen in Philadelphia during one of the debates?
- Josh Hawley & Tom Cotton are positioning themselves for a run in 2024, but I wouldn't be surprised if Cotton gets the GOP nom based on him traveling with incumbent candidates and getting more visibility.



More thoughts later today.

Or this could be that Trump has unwavering support among his base
 
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