Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

Cave Savage

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Dunno about that. The second election Corbyn ran in may as well have been a second Brexit referendum. It's the position his party took that fukked him

I agree Sanders would have been washed though.. If Republicans can paint even Biden as a Socialist, they'd have done a number on Bernie

And Bernie is to the left of Biden on social issues too. If those Trump cacs thought Joe was too woke, just imagine Bernie.
 

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I mean I’ve voted Democrat all my life but I do think the concept off the ‘Liberal elite’ is a real thing, and it’s a small percent of people. And like you said they do alienate a lot of people.

The same ‘halfass democrats‘ that twitter rips apart for selling out and not being liberal enough are the same ones who can actually win elections.

Or maybe the progress of tonight so far just has me cynical.
Nah those are absolutely salient points.

I'll drop one more hot take. I can't believe I'm about to say THE ONLY positive thing I've ever said about Trump. I know for sure of one of my friend's parents that lost their son in Iraq in 2004 that said they were voting for Trump because he's the first president this side of 1990 or so) to not start any new military conflicts. I mean Trump has not kept his promise to pull a lot of our troops home, and he has run limited special operations missions in certain countries where we already have a military presence, but he hasn't sent "boots on the ground" to occupy any major places that we haven't already been in.

The family in question said that if Trump had been in office when their son died, that maybe he wouldn't have been sent to Iraq. Now, I think that's a bit naive, and wrong, but they said they knew there were other military families that would vote for Trump to keep family members out of harm's way.

I don't agree with their decision but they've experienced a crazy loss and I think these re the Trump voters that don't get talked about when we dissect these elections.
 

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i wonder how much of this election was a referendum on the administrations COVID policy

is it possible that this many people still think this is a joke? even after trump got covid and had to go to walter reed?
 

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He was probably the last Dem to capture enough of that "pro labor but somewhat socially conservative" voting block that gave the Dems the Midwest in the 90s, 00s, and Obama years.

The social conservative point is real. Wild how fast time goes. In ‘08 Obama simply had to explain why he was previously a slow adopter on gay marriage.

Fast forward a few election cycles, and you’re automatically a problematic transphobe if you accidentally call her Bruce :francis:
 

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Defund the police should have been better articulated instead of letting the other side shape the narrative.
Democrats are always letting Republicans do this. Weak leadership and zero killer instinct leads to yesterday and today. Dems wanted to play fair and Republicans play to win. How's that worked out for them?
 
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Decriminalizing weed isn't the same as legalizing it. I still don't get why Dems are so gun-shy on this. That alone would get a lot of people to the polls. It's an easy thing to support that has 2/3 approval in the country. New states are legalizing it every election. The party just doesn't want to be forward thinking.
I think they're either scared of making a wring decision and just gun-shy? Or beholden to pharmaceutical companies that donate to their campaigns.

Gotta be one of those 2 reasons. I don't get how M4A has an 87% approval rating among Dems, and even a FIFTY TWO % approval rating among Republicans, and yet Dems won't jump on that shyt.

87% is basically 9/10. That's the easiest policy ever to support. Clearly your base wants that thing. Just do it. Same with the 2/3rds supporting marijuana. Just do it.
 
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