Lucky_Lefty
Dreams Are Colder Than Death...
God lord. Y’all again. Ya man would have gotten washed worse than he did on Super Tuesday
Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)
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ogc163
Superstar
The major legal question moving forward is how will the Trump administration use the USSC's conservatives' recent opinions to justify their decision to stop the counting of ballots?
It is generally accepted that the Supreme Court of the United States does not have the power to overrule a state supreme court on the question of state law. And this principle serves as an example of state sovereignty and separation of powers. But in Democratic National Committee v. Wisconsin State Legislature, Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh threaten this principle, arguing that it does not apply to issues involving federal elections. Kavanaugh further argues that the Supreme Court may overrule a state supreme court decision if it defies the clearly expressed intent of the state's legislature. And citing Justice Rehnquist in Bush v. Gore, Kavanaugh writes that under Article II of the Constitution state supreme court's decisions should not be given definite weight when the issue is whether they departed from statutory meaning. But when confronted with the criticism that the Supreme Court has no role in such cases Kavanaugh could only muster up the weak argument that Article II requires federal courts to ensure that state courts do not rewrite state election laws. It wouldn't surprise me if states attempt to challenge Trump and by extension Kavanaugh's opinion, and it becomes the main area of debate. Thus, it is highly likely that the Trump administration will attempt to use Kavanaugh's opinion to serve as the foundation for potential attempts to undermine absentee ballot counting in contentious states over the next several days. And with Barrett now on the court shyt can swing in Trump's favor.
It is generally accepted that the Supreme Court of the United States does not have the power to overrule a state supreme court on the question of state law. And this principle serves as an example of state sovereignty and separation of powers. But in Democratic National Committee v. Wisconsin State Legislature, Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh threaten this principle, arguing that it does not apply to issues involving federal elections. Kavanaugh further argues that the Supreme Court may overrule a state supreme court decision if it defies the clearly expressed intent of the state's legislature. And citing Justice Rehnquist in Bush v. Gore, Kavanaugh writes that under Article II of the Constitution state supreme court's decisions should not be given definite weight when the issue is whether they departed from statutory meaning. But when confronted with the criticism that the Supreme Court has no role in such cases Kavanaugh could only muster up the weak argument that Article II requires federal courts to ensure that state courts do not rewrite state election laws. It wouldn't surprise me if states attempt to challenge Trump and by extension Kavanaugh's opinion, and it becomes the main area of debate. Thus, it is highly likely that the Trump administration will attempt to use Kavanaugh's opinion to serve as the foundation for potential attempts to undermine absentee ballot counting in contentious states over the next several days. And with Barrett now on the court shyt can swing in Trump's favor.
No he wouldn’t have.
ADevilYouKhow
Rhyme Reason
Yea Uk already tried this and Jeremy Corbin got spanked
Trump with a huge landslide and strong political mAndate would be even scarier
Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
I think y'all on to something a few pages back. The cacs and Mexicans/Cubans saw the blacklivesmatter movement and came out to vote against it. They'd rather die from covid than have racial equality.
AquaCityBoy
Veteran
I was watching NBC Nightly News a couple days ago and they interviewed a voter from Ohio who went for Obama in 08 and 2012, but switched to Trump in 2016 and planned to vote for Trump in 2020, and he said it was because "the Democrats were going too far left."
Obviously that's only one person, but I wonder how much of that "Biden is a socialist" talk actually stuck. If somebody actually said that then, what would they be saying if Bernie was the nominee?
I just don't know. Dems find new ways to lose as always, but I don't know if they actually move more left going forward. It'll probably be more centrists and pro-Trump 'Democrats' in 2022 and 2024.
Cave Savage
Feminist
Doesn't Biden support the vast majority of the positions the progressive left wants?
He advocated for $15 minimum wage, public healthcare, pathway to citizenship, massive tax hikes on the wealthy, police reform, etc.
I am skeptical of the idea that he would have got more votes by being further left. It could be true, but I honestly think that Trump and his ilk have controlled the "narrative" enough over the last 5 years that it might not matter.
He advocated for $15 minimum wage, public healthcare, pathway to citizenship, massive tax hikes on the wealthy, police reform, etc.
I am skeptical of the idea that he would have got more votes by being further left. It could be true, but I honestly think that Trump and his ilk have controlled the "narrative" enough over the last 5 years that it might not matter.
Lucky_Lefty
Dreams Are Colder Than Death...
nikka please. Bernie wouldn’t have done shyt in the Midwest and all that stomping for Biden in FL still didn’t win the state for him. Y’all need to get over that shyt. The democratic constituency voted against him in two primaries now. Let that shyt go
FreshFromATL
Self Made
He's up damn near 2/3's in the counties still reporting, so basically hold the fort over the remaining votes.
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
Same here. I can’t sleep either. I think a long standing problem is everyone that would ever vote republicans does. Every time. I don’t know why we can’t get the same energy but year in year out I believe most of the people that don’t vote are people that would vote Democrat.
Our party doesn’t come off as the worker’s party anymore and our messaging is not landing. Hell. We don’t even really have a unified message.
I asking think there’s mad people that feel disaffected by the Democratic Party that feel defeated and are just quiet about it and not speaking up.
A lot of non voters are beaten down too and have sadly lost faith in the system. Republicans voters as much as I hate them never seem to be too down to go vote though. And I do blame the DNC largely for not selling themselves better or giving us a better ticket
PA is a Hail Mary. More likely are WI and GA. Both are razor thin.
When they say going too far left, they are not talking about economics
they are talking about critical race theory, transgenderism, defunding police, etc
Cave Savage
Feminist
Biden also (to my knowledge) supports giving out even more H1B visas as well as mass amnesty. That kind of stuff is not popular among white swing voters and it hasn't gained him any ground with Latinos.
BlueHeffner
Veteran
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