Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

JJ Lions

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This is where it's at right now:

Biden needs to win any 2 states from this list for the win.
Georgia - 16
Michigan - 16
Pennsylvania - 20
Wisconsin - 10

If Biden had won Florida, this would be over already.
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The above is based on:

So Biden at 224.

I'll trust Fox and give Arizona to Biden

Arizona - 11
Nevada - 6
Maine - 4

that gives him 245

needs 25 more

So basically needs any 2 states from this list for the win. That's where it's at.
Georgia - 16
Michigan - 16
Pennsylvania - 20
Wisconsin - 10
 
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bro its just not true for everybody...
...thinking it all comes down to racism is giving up...and also being the elitist they claim the party is.

Dems need to seriously look at themselves...
...writing everything off to racism is why were in this mess now.

I read right wing twitter because im into finances...
...there is a lot of shyt they talk about that Dems dont confront.




Okay let me clarify. Im not saying that you're wrong.

I'm saying its those things you mentioned and then it's racism looming in the background like a huge invisible spectre.

You gotta remember, white folks game is to pretend that racism doesn't exist. They want us to believe its all in our heads. So they're never going to outright address racism in those right wing chats that you monitor.

Nah, that's the thing they talk to each other about face to face where we won't ever hear it.
 

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Romney was the last hurrah of the old guard. In the Trump era, it seems like he got a lot of the white working class, pro labor but socially conservative vote that Democrats got in the 90s.
to you and @jilla82 The thing now too is that a lot of conservatives these days (I'm not counting the hardcore nationalists and die hard Trump voters) have largely accepted that they've lost the culture wars. Most of them seem to just want to be left alone and aren't that fanatical about pushing their ideas onto other people anymore. The reasonable conservatives I interact with mostly just want to live in a sphere of society where they can keep their guns and religion in peace. Many are pro marijuana legalization, many at the very least don't give a shyt either way about gay marriage, and many don't care anymore about the death penalty. Pro-Life seems to be the last social issue that many conservatives haven't entirely given up the culture wars on.

Again, maybe this would be better for another thread, and if I make one I'll tag you, but I am very concerned about people that have been on the left their entire lives being alienated from the left going forward; a lot of people don't want to be called transphobic because they made the wrong joke on twitter, etc. There are people that have been democrats their entire lives that feel like political orphans now, and I don't want the right taking these people up because of identity politics and the left allowing Twitter mobs that don't represent most people dictating how everyone behaves.
 

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When did that change? Cause I could have sworn that less than 20 years ago, Dems were the working man's party, the party of unions while the GOP was full of the rich conservative elite :deadmanny:



These fools flipped positions on us again like they did in the early 1900s
Republicans are masters at manipulating people into thinking they're for the average person while fukking them over for corporations. It's astounding
 

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the DR/PR here in the northeast i know don't fukk with Trump like that. So this idea of trying to place all latinos in a basket it ain't like that at all lol
i don't think people here are lumping all the groups together. but PR/DR folks are mainly in blue states, if you're going to segment the latino vote and go after a group, its those in the SW where the #'s are high enough to sway an election and a group that is starting to have more of a voice as they're no longer mainly comprised of 1st/2nd gen immigrants like they were in the 80's/90's
 

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I'm definitely worried about a populist candidate that's more effective at implementing their ideologies than Trump.

One thing I hate to admit, but I respect about the GOP is their ability to support the candidate that their base wants. The GOP hated Trump in 2015 but he's who their base wanted so they got behind him. The GOP feeds their base in a way that the DNC doesn't, and I worry about that going forward. I think on the left we need to get our house in order and try to get on a unified page, because now we've got at least 2 wings of the party, and things are a bit fragmented.

Tucker Carlson :scust:

socialism/communism may die off, but white assimilation may accelerate, especially for those who are well off. i remember being surprised at seeing this amongst even mexicans when i got to college, some of those mexicans at stanford were definitely nothing like the mexicans i grew up with in oakland :mjpls:

I disagree with the "wanting to be white" narrative for some of them at least. Lil Pump endorsed Trump and he tries hard as be possibly can to copy black people.
 
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