Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

dora_da_destroyer

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a lot of what people are protesting in not voting is the result of having a two party system. until a 3rd party humbles themselves and builds from the ground up (local/state office) over time, you're not going to have a viable 3rd party for president - certainly not if you're counting on the no corporate money piece (i'm not a fan of big money in politics either). or focus revolution on converting the US to a parliamentary system :yeshrug:
 

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nah, fukk this idiot. damaging biden with attacks....for what purpose? :what:

biden should tell him to suck a dikk and not even debate him. bernie just lost michigan, theres no reason to entertain this. at all
Did you listen to the speech?

He didn't attack Biden.
 

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He may be assisting biden by staying in until the next debate

In the next debate, bernie can ask biden how he will appeal to bernies wing of the party to support them. Biden will provide his answer and sweep the next set of primaries and bernie will drop out

If bernie dropped out now without a chance to ask joe some questions publically then his supporters may be less likely to turn out for him

There is no way bernie turns this around barring massive collapse from biden and both camps know it. If bernie still thought he had a viable path he would have spoke last night
Thank you.
 

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Did you listen to the speech?

He didn't attack Biden.
is bernie's ongoing presence in a race he cant win, positive or negative for the person who will eventually win?

rhetorical question because we already saw it with hillary :heh:
 

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Trump makes empty promises everyday. :gucci:

Sanders is talking substantive stuff.

Also, Bernie says every single day. Joe is my friend. If Joe is the nominee, I'm doing whatever to help him beat Trump.

Just chill the fukk out.
No sure what we are worries about. Sanders wants Biden to give him reasonable answers that he can take back to his people and convince them he is worth voting for.

Biden knows how to play the game

What's the issue.
 

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I understand your frustrations my dude, but this is the wrong strategy. As you can tell by my posts I truly dislike Joe Biden. He has pushed racist policies like tough on drugs legislation, and the crime bill. He worked with segregation, voted for bad trade deals, voted for the War in Iraq, supported the Libya bombing, and is against almost every piece of progressive legislation. I agree that he is terrible but Trump is worse.

Don’t help to give Trump four more years of federal court appointments. As bad as Biden is, his court picks will be decent to good. If you care about progressive legislation, a lot of the bills will get challenged by conservative groups and will go to the courts. I would rather have the cases go to a Biden judge than a Trump judge.

Let’s work on getting more progressives in local and state government, so we can have a bigger bench to go to. We also need to create our on political place and group and put pressure on the establishment from the outside. This mean starting progressive Businesses and lobbying. But in the meantime let’s do as little damage as possible. Biden will do is less harm than Trump.
You can't convince these people Biden is different from Trump.

In their mind he is Trump lite. With thinking like that, it's best to let them self-immolate
 

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is bernie's ongoing presence in a race he cant win, positive or negative for the person who will eventually win?

rhetorical question because we already saw it with hillary :heh:
I honestly dont think Bernie stays in past next Tuesday. He has given Biden the blueprint to build a bridge with his supporters.
 

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for the record, i hope im wrong about this :yeshrug:
Listen to the speech. He didn't attack him, he was conciliatory but he also made it clear that people need answers on some policies.

His supporters will feel better to hear Biden come down on their side on some of these policies, even if they don't agree on how or when to try to implement them.

It's up to Biden to court these supporters and keep it moving.

Compromise and humility. The same thing I have criticized Bernie for NOT doing throughout this race. If the voting block and supporters are that important to Biden, he will do what's necessary.
 

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:wow: no fans allowed at march madness

this fukkin thing could really gift wrap this for the dems. republicans' entire argument has been "we have to support trump, look at the economy"

if the economy tanks, why should the american people re-elect a man whose own party has admitted is human garbage?
 

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:wow: no fans allowed at march madness

this fukkin thing could really gift wrap this for the dems. republicans' entire argument has been "we have to support trump, look at the economy"

if the economy tanks, why should the american people re-elect a man whose own party has admitted is human garbage?
Big Bag Bloom going have stacks no matter what. He's going pullup with the attack ads on Facebook and on air:wow:
 
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