Official Bernie Sanders HQ: Not Me, Us!

[Hood Critic]

Ballot or the Bullet speech is why I’m a registered Independent. Malcolm taught me bout these whores.

Malcolm's heart was in the right place, highlighting the fact that this system was not developed with black folks in mind or for their prosperity.

The problem is, the system does not need black folks in order to continue and they would much prefer if black folks would mass boycott it so that they no longer have to be bothered with appeasing our people.

The answer is the ballot and we breed and raise our own foxes and wolves.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Malcolm's heart was in the right place, highlighting the fact that this system was not developed with black folks in mind or for their prosperity.

The problem is, the system does not need black folks in order to continue and they would much prefer if black folks would mass boycott it so that they no longer have to be bothered with appeasing our people.

The answer is the ballot and we breed and raise our own foxes and wolves.

But Malcolm’s argument wasn’t to boycott. It was to develop an independent voting bloc of Black people whom weaponize their ballots by pushing candidates to adopt policies that help the Black community in exchange for their support at the ballot box. As opposed to blind party loyalty where they put your issues at the very bottom of the agenda, if it even makes it onto the agenda, and give out crumbs for your vote. This would essentially be what you mean with the “develop our own wolves and foxes”. The ballot should be used wisely, not just for propping up bullshyt and kickin cans down the road.

His point was to not have blind faith in either party because, as you said, the system wasn’t developed with Black people in mind. However, that isn’t to say that using the Black vote in a more strategic manner and without the constraints of party alliance would be more effective in bringing change through the govt.

 

[DirtyD]

I think Bernie supporters are wasting their time arguing with Biden partisans best next step imo is moving on to the house and Senate races.


This is as good a place to start as any:



Do you know if we already have a 2020 house and Senate primaries thread @FAH1223 ?

 

[Hood Critic]

But Malcolm’s argument wasn’t to boycott. It was to develop an independent voting bloc of Black people whom weaponize their ballots by pushing candidates to adopt policies that help the Black community in exchange for their support at the ballot box. This would essentially be what you mean with the “develop our own wolves and foxes”.

His point was to not have blind faith in either party because, as you said, the system wasn’t developed with Black people in mind. However, that isn’t to say that using the Black vote in a more strategic manner and without the constraints of party alliance would be more effective in bringing change through the govt.

I know but the reality was, we didn't have the leverage to drive those negotiations or hold those candidates to those promises. The more we're embedded and necessary the more leverage we have to do just that...i.e. the DNC's current dependence on us.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

I know but the reality was, we didn't have the leverage to drive those negotiations or hold those candidates to those promises. The more we're embedded and necessary the more leverage we have to do just that...i.e. the DNC's current dependence on us.

I disagree, Black people have been embedded within the Dems for decades now and have yet to reap any real benefits from it. Politicians spend an awful lot of time trying to sway Independent votes tho. Dems having to actually do shyt for the Independent Black vote to me would be more effective than assimilation. Look at it this way, just as the DNC needs the Black vote the Black vote is now just as convinced it needs the DNC which hardly does enough for its causes or only lends token support and attention to those causes. Hell, as a whole the DNC has been pretty weak in fighting for all its constituents. Not having to actually fight for those votes keeps the DNC lazy and ineffective.

I think Malcolm just looked at it in a very realpolitik kinda way. The reality was neither party was particularly interested in Black people beyond their vote and that mostly remains the same today.

 

[FAH1223]

Do you know if we already have a 2020 house and Senate primaries thread @FAH1223 ?

Nah, we could convert the 2020 Dem primary thread

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

I think Bernie supporters are wasting their time arguing with Biden partisans best next step imo is moving on to the house and Senate races.


This is as good a place to start as any:



Do you know if we already have a 2020 house and Senate primaries thread @FAH1223 ?

That’s absolutely what needs to go down. Progressives just need to flat out snatch the party from the centrists. fukk them.

 

[FooFighters]

This gon be an even more difficult truce than when Kobe and Bron stans had to unite.

They had a temporary truce.

 

[A Cop]

While the Biden thread is excusing rape, the Bernie thread is discussing Malcolm X.

 

[Torrential]

That’s absolutely what needs to go down. Progressives just need to flat out snatch the party from the centrists. fukk them.

Facts.

 

[SunZoo]

I disagree, Black people have been embedded within the Dems for decades now and have yet to reap any real benefits from it.

I've seen nikkas go as far as to say they rallied against Bernie because they are "the establishment" and that attacking or trying even trying to reform the democratic party is him trying to take their POWER away.


A combination of +

It's one thing when it's just house nikkas trying to keep the rest of us in line and protect their status, it's another when black folks actually think they owe the democratic party their loyalty for having the privilege to play firewall for nothing real in return.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

That’s absolutely what needs to go down. Progressives just need to flat out snatch the party from the centrists. fukk them.

This time though got to be more stealth about it and do the rope a dope. Stand up and fight for Progressive policies always but don't talk shyt about leadership, the DNC or your fellow Congress or Dem members period. Act like a team player. Individually do well, raise your profile and when you have enough district and national popularity then maybe change to a more confrontational stance with your own party.
^Unfortunately, all this will take time and a lot of discipline.

 

[the cac mamba]

why are you still attacking bernie in the bernie thread when supposedly biden has this whole thing sewn up?

nervous?

the better question is why you wont vote for biden, when bernie has explicitly made clear that voting for biden is the best thing for his agenda

do you know better than bernie sanders what's best for his own agenda? or were you just never serious about bernie or what he stands for?

 

[Warren Moon]

Every time somebody tells you that Biden "beat" Bernie, remember that the entire party had to throw everything they had at him:

Bernie was helped by the split vote plain and simple.

if it would of been 1 vs 1, Biden vs Bernie, from the jump. He would of gotten beat even worse


Bernie only existed bc of Hilary, Liz, and Pete. Count your blessings.

 

[A Cop]