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The key is to keep building. Bernie laid the groundwork for lefties to run and shifted a lot of conversations, there's an infrastructure in place now that we still have to build on. Don't let the smug clowns try to silence that. Keep building awareness, take opportunities to educate folks on how some of these policies would look and don't be disillusioned. Don't let them drown out or water down the conversation, keep the progressive goals alive. Bernie owned the younger half of this country entirely, don't let those margins slip.
 

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The key is to keep building. Bernie laid the groundwork for lefties to run and shifted a lot of conversations, there's an infrastructure in place now that we still have to build on. Don't let the smug clowns try to silence that. Keep building awareness, take opportunities to educate folks on how some of these policies would look and don't be disillusioned. Don't let them drown out or water down the conversation, keep the progressive goals alive. Bernie owned the younger half of this country entirely, don't let those margins slip.

Exactly, gotta see the long term. Years ago when I was a senior in high school I almost did canvassing for Progressive Maryland so I might fukk around and try to find them whenever this quarantine shyt ends. I’d actually love to help out or at least see what they working on.
 

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That’s like shooting yourself in the head to show guns are bad. We are literally in the midst of the worst epidemic in decades because we have Trump in office, and Bernie Bros want to stay home and let this madman get re-elected to prove a point. This isn’t the Dark Knight and y’all not the Joker. This is real life. If the world burns down, you’re getting third degree burns too :rudy: Such a sad group...y’all are the mirror image of Trump supporters. Both groups are cult like and identify so vehemently with “the politician/man” that you care more about what happens to him then you do about the objective itself because if you did, you would never allow Trump to waltz back into a second term. I wish I would care for a politician that much :rudy: Y’all begging for someone to be sympathetic about being in debt or being underemployed but y’all are literally watching thousands of people dying everyday and your response is that people should’ve voted for your guy? fukk outta here.


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Youre retarded :francis:

The EPA?
Department of Education?
The Iran Nuclear Deal?
North Korea?
Supreme Court?
Pandemic Response?
Roe v. Wade?

All of these things hang in the balance. If you seriously think these issues are better off in Trump’s hands than Biden’s your parents are probably siblings. Y’all losers said in 2016 that people might as well vote for Trump instead of another “CORPORATE DEM” like Hilary...y’all either voted for Trump directly or indirectly by not voting or voting Independent. That was proven to be incredibly false, short sighted and just plain old retarded. The world would have absolutely been better off in Hilary’s hands these last four years than it has in Trump’s. I wish I could slap you for being so stupid :francis:
 

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Do the numbers indicate that the Bernie supporters’ defection is what swung things so
Heavily in 2016?
 

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Do the numbers indicate that the Bernie supporters’ defection is what swung things so
Heavily in 2016?
No. It’s mostly based on poor turnout in heavily minority areas driven by apathy and voter suppression. Also, Trump won rural areas by large margins.
 

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Youre retarded :francis:

The EPA?
Department of Education?
The Iran Nuclear Deal?
North Korea?
Supreme Court?
Pandemic Response?
Roe v. Wade?

All of these things hang in the balance. If you seriously think these issues are better off in Trump’s hands than Biden’s your parents are probably siblings. Y’all losers said in 2016 that people might as well vote for Trump instead of another “CORPORATE DEM” like Hilary...y’all either voted for Trump directly or indirectly by not voting or voting Independent. That was proven to be incredibly false, short sighted and just plain old retarded. The world would have absolutely been better off in Hilary’s hands these last four years than it has in Trump’s. I wish I could slap you for being so stupid :francis:
I voted for Kerry. I voted for Obama. I voted for Hillary Clinton.

I'm not voting for Joe Biden.
 
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The key is to keep building. Bernie laid the groundwork for lefties to run and shifted a lot of conversations, there's an infrastructure in place now that we still have to build on. Don't let the smug clowns try to silence that. Keep building awareness, take opportunities to educate folks on how some of these policies would look and don't be disillusioned. Don't let them drown out or water down the conversation, keep the progressive goals alive. Bernie owned the younger half of this country entirely, don't let those margins slip.
you're correct and sounds good but AOC behavior proves that another party is needed for progressives and lefties. The Dem party is not about implementing progressives and lefties' policies...either you get down or lay down
Not only did she vote for the current Dem leadership, we know how she voted for the current stimulus package after correctly grandstanding against it
 
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Youre retarded :francis:

The EPA?
Department of Education?
The Iran Nuclear Deal?
North Korea?
Supreme Court?
Pandemic Response?
Roe v. Wade?

All of these things hang in the balance. If you seriously think these issues are better off in Trump’s hands than Biden’s your parents are probably siblings. Y’all losers said in 2016 that people might as well vote for Trump instead of another “CORPORATE DEM” like Hilary...y’all either voted for Trump directly or indirectly by not voting or voting Independent. That was proven to be incredibly false, short sighted and just plain old retarded. The world would have absolutely been better off in Hilary’s hands these last four years than it has in Trump’s. I wish I could slap you for being so stupid :francis:
smh. Can't even start to reason about the domestic policies because I'm lost at the suppose winning foreign policy is to either reward or pretend not to see bad behavior
 

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No. It’s mostly based on poor turnout in heavily minority areas driven by apathy and voter suppression. Also, Trump won rural areas by large margins.
Ok I’ve been reading up more on this trying to figure out what made everybody say this. Only number I seen was 1 out of 10 switched to trump but I’m not as well versed in election math so idk how big of a swing that caused

But you hit on something I suspected which is not as many people are really paying attention as we think
 

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Youre retarded :francis:

The EPA?
Department of Education?
The Iran Nuclear Deal?
North Korea?
Supreme Court?
Pandemic Response?
Roe v. Wade?

All of these things hang in the balance. If you seriously think these issues are better off in Trump’s hands than Biden’s your parents are probably siblings. Y’all losers said in 2016 that people might as well vote for Trump instead of another “CORPORATE DEM” like Hilary...y’all either voted for Trump directly or indirectly by not voting or voting Independent. That was proven to be incredibly false, short sighted and just plain old retarded. The world would have absolutely been better off in Hilary’s hands these last four years than it has in Trump’s. I wish I could slap you for being so stupid :francis:
Doesn't even make sense. Incredibly short sighted.

Imagine trying to push a Progressive agenda in 2024 when there's literally nothing left of the government to base it from.
 

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Doesn't even make sense. Incredibly short sighted.

Imagine trying to push a Progressive agenda in 2024 when there's literally nothing left of the government to base it from.
Can I ask you something? What are centrists doing right now to stop Trump? We're told over and over that we can't be too far left because we need to work with moderate Republicans to "get things done." So why were the centrists unable to convince a handful of Republican senators to vote for impeachment? We were told the centrists are the only people who can make them see the light on certain issues. They could only get Mitt Romney and he only vote for half of the impeachment measure.

The central claim centrists make, that they can get Republicans to cooperate, seems to be untrue.
 

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Can I ask you something? What are centrists doing right now to stop Trump? We're told over and over that we can't be too far left because we need to work with moderate Republicans to "get things done." So why were the centrists unable to convince a handful of Republican senators to vote for impeachment? We were told the centrists are the only people who can make them see the light on certain issues. They could only get Mitt Romney and he only vote for half of the impeachment measure.

The central claim centrists make, that they can get Republicans to cooperate, seems to be untrue.

Honestly the only way to fix the system is to let it crumble and rebuild it from the ground up.

A progressive movement would have never worked even if Bernie won the nomination and election. He would have faced heavy opposition from both parties and end up a lame duck.

What progressives are asking for is not possible in this system.

:manny:

Vote for Biden if you atleast want stability in your life even if its business as usual. Trump winning leads to unknown chaos.
 
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