Official Bernie Sanders HQ: Not Me, Us!

[SunZoo]

It’s over

Nah, it's just beginning.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I hope like hell your assessment isn't accurate, because that would make Black America and leftist politics fundamentally incompatible.

Therein lies the paradox. The people that would most need progressive policies has too much of a conservative streak to vote for it. There are a lot of layers to voting in Black America, some which have been ignored until now.

I think they've always been present and talked about. Martin was hated by black conservatives. Malcolm was highly critical of Martin's politics. Du Bois and Booker T Washington beefed. Du Bois and Marcus Garvey had issues.

The problem is that you have generic black conservatives and liberals who frame the argument as one for equality and not one for liberation.

The problem is that you have generic black liberals who, because of their existence within black communities, understand the language of liberation, understand black oppression, then co-opt a movement for independence and turn it into a fukkn capstone project.

In what world can ending police violence not be progressive? It's impossible. But when you have black liberals as the face of the community, they can label "progressive" or "progressives" as a white project, without being required to account for where on the political spectrum black freedom resides.

The end of a racialized criminal justice system is not moderate. The end to redlining is not moderate. Rehabilitation of black communities and an end to gentrification is not moderate. The development of public transportation that allows unfettered movement for black communities is not moderate. Increased funding and access to safe schools is not moderate.

But since they're the only ones provided public access to express their points they get to create the illusion that the american black plight for civil rights is moderate, pragmatic, and at odds with leftist theory.

It's a complete b*stardization of politics, but most importantly african and african american history.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

I think they've always been present and talked about. Martin was hated by black conservatives. Malcolm was highly critical of Martin's politics. Du Bois and Booker T Washington beefed. Du Bois and Marcus Garvey had issues.

The problem is that you have generic black conservatives and liberals who frame the argument as one for equality and not one for liberation.

The problem is that you have generic black liberals who, because of their existence within black communities, understand the language of liberation, understand black oppression, then co-opt a movement for independence and turn it into a fukkn capstone project.

In what world can ending police violence not be progressive? It's impossible. But when you have black liberals as the face of the community, they can label "progressive" or "progressives" as a white project, without being required to account for where on the political spectrum black freedom resides.

The end of a racialized criminal justice system is not moderate. The end to redlining is not moderate. Rehabilitation of black communities and an end to gentrification is not moderate. The development of public transportation that allows unfettered movement for black communities is not moderate. Increased funding and access to safe schools is not moderate.

But since they're the only ones provided public access to express their points they get to create the illusion that the american black plight for civil rights is moderate, pragmatic, and at odds with leftist theory.

It's a complete b*stardization of politics, but most importantly african and african american history.

Absolutely right, if anything I’d argue that it gives the Black political world in America a silent but deadly strand of fascism in its DNA. Given that it’s the reaction to fascist ideals that even helped spring Black political thought in this country I don’t think it’s crazy to think that negative elements may have helped influence it as well.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[No1]

I think they've always been present and talked about. Martin was hated by black conservatives. Malcolm was highly critical of Martin's politics. Du Bois and Booker T Washington beefed. Du Bois and Marcus Garvey had issues.

The problem is that you have generic black conservatives and liberals who frame the argument as one for equality and not one for liberation.

The problem is that you have generic black liberals who, because of their existence within black communities, understand the language of liberation, understand black oppression, then co-opt a movement for independence and turn it into a fukkn capstone project.

In what world can ending police violence not be progressive? It's impossible. But when you have black liberals as the face of the community, they can label "progressive" or "progressives" as a white project, without being required to account for where on the political spectrum black freedom resides.

The end of a racialized criminal justice system is not moderate. The end to redlining is not moderate. Rehabilitation of black communities and an end to gentrification is not moderate. The development of public transportation that allows unfettered movement for black communities is not moderate. Increased funding and access to safe schools is not moderate.

But since they're the only ones provided public access to express their points they get to create the illusion that the american black plight for civil rights is moderate, pragmatic, and at odds with leftist theory.

It's a complete b*stardization of politics, but most importantly african and african american history.

Agreed on all accounts but this is what we have. So the only way to compete with that is to use “moderate” language to push progressive ideas. Same sex marriage is not a “moderate” concept but it was sold as such. We have to change our marketing to fit the consumer who isn’t well versed by design.

 

[Micky Mikey]

And yet this is the candidate that America resoundly votes against. There were many issues with his campaign but none can question his integrity.

The candidate we so desperately needed but didn't deserve

 

[duncanthetall]

And yet this is the candidate that America resoundly votes against. There were many issues with his campaign but none can question his integrity.

The candidate we so desperately needed but didn't deserve

I doubt I’ll ever get over this one tbh. Will never look at mainstream media the same way again.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

I contributed. fukk it.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

And yet this is the candidate that America resoundly votes against. There were many issues with his campaign but none can question his integrity.

The candidate we so desperately needed but didn't deserve

I'm not wishing this on him, but don't be surprised if that man has a heartattack. For the media, political establishment, and seemingly the country to be against him, but then to watch ALL of those same people run to his policies without thinking twice or asking "how is he gonna pay for that" or "that'll never get through Congress". It must be extraordinarily aggravating. In a way, I feel bad for him.

He still fukked up though.

 

[Micky Mikey]

I'm not wishing this on him, but don't be surprised if that man has a heartattack. For the media, political establishment, and seemingly the country to be against him, but then to watch ALL of those same people run to his policies without thinking twice or asking "how is he gonna pay for that" or "that'll never get through Congress". It must be extraordinarily aggravating. In a way, I feel bad for him.

He still fukked up though.

Hopefully he doesn't have another one. I think its more likely he'll catch coronavirus, Biden included.
In a way I think he's accomplished what he wanted. He may not be president but he did change the politcal narrative. No one was talking about all these progressive policies 4 or 5 years ago.

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

Bernie just goes into helping people mode

 

[FAH1223]

Bernie just goes into helping people mode

the slander continues

@Birnin Zana

 

[SunZoo]

The answer is that you can do nothing. The opportunity to win back Bernie's voters came and went four years ago. Bernie could spend the rest of the year campaigning for Joe. Joe could promise to abolish private property by executive order on day one. It would not be enough.

Bernie was projected to win a decisive lead on Super Tuesday. Biden was, everyone thought, on his last legs and had not campaigned or established a ground presence in many states. Then, in the days immediately before Super Tuesday, several of his opponents dropped out. Their endorsements and a raft of others carried him to victory.

This was a message to Bernie voters: "fukk off. We would rather drag Joe Biden over the finish line, knowing that he is no longer mentally competent, than cede anything to the candidate who is winning your votes by fifty points or more."

 

[wtfyomom]

I doubt I’ll ever get over this one tbh. Will never look at mainstream media the same way again.

i already gave up on them after 2016. idk how anyone watches it, its such obvious propaganda, also ever since trump got elected. msnbc and cnn are way more comfortable with stretching the truth and theyve turned the typical dem voter into rabid morons akin to the GOP voters. all the russia gate bullshyt, having a story about the pee tape, reporting that they had a tape with trump jr talking to russians before it was confirmed, having "body language experts" on to say bernie hates his wife secretly and is sexist. the impeachment garbage. both sides are fake news now. having all these never trumpers on that pushed the whole party to the right. its really just become blue maga for these a$$holes. all that matters is beating trump even if we run hitler against him

 

[wtfyomom]

in lieu of tulsi and yang and warrens bullshyt. shout to marianne williamson, pro reparations, only one to endorse bernie and call out all the bullshyt, even called out sanctions on iran, cuba and venezuela. she got more balls than the whole dem party