Official Bernie Sanders HQ: Not Me, Us!

[tru_m.a.c]

my comment was also about regular voters. the rhetoric of his campaign didn't/doesn't resonate with me - and probably others who found warren's messaging around fixing corruption and breaking the hold of corporatism to be more appealing. to me, that revolution/rage against the machine rhetoric has a cap, it worked for trump only because the republican alternatives refused to consolidate. to me, seems great to have that as your message in the three years followin the 2016 run to keep you base engaged, but at some point you have to broaden it to pull in folks who'd prefer "let's fix it" to "let's tear it down"

In 2016 did you vote for Hillary in the CA primary?

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

In 2016 did you vote for Hillary in the CA primary?

didn't vote in the primaries in 2016, with the CA primaries being so late, it felt pointless & neither candidate elicited strong feelings in me to vote "to support them"

 

[PoorAndDangerous]

We are so fukked if Biden becomes the nom

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

It’s not a sure thing if Bernie comes with that pressure

Ehh. I don't see it. Obviously hope for the best


But I have zero faith in the electorate and even less faith in the media.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

didn't vote in the primaries in 2016, with the CA primaries being so late, it felt pointless & neither candidate elicited strong feelings in me to vote "to support them"

You don't think this answer right here highlights why a Warren campaign came in 3rd in her own home state?

 

[Miles Davis]

Biden just has to run out the clock, up two scores, with home field advantage and under two minutes to play. Bernie has no timeouts, down to practice squad receivers, and the referees didn't seem to appreciate the fact that he didn't know the lyrics to "Goin' Up Yonder".

So they just gave Biden another 15 yards and an automatic first down before the ball was even snapped.

You sounding like Biden telling a story jumping from topic to topic but telling it as if it’s one

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

You don't think this answer right here highlights why a Warren campaign came in 3rd in her own home state?

no, bernie had a head start in having most of the progressive base, she was never going to break his hold, and biden shot up with a consolidate moderate vote + "momentum". and MA isn't at the end of the contest, knowing that someone won't be the nominee in a field of 3+ is different that knowing who will be the nominee when it's down to the final (legitimate) two. CA being in June means it's usually clear who the nominee is going to be, and it makes voting less pressing since you're unlikely to play any role in shifting the landscape

 

[Miles Davis]

Dap and rep for a classic Twilight Zone reference.



I'll raise you that and say that alot of poor and impoverished people from Super Tuesday voted for Joe Biden because they desperately need help, and Biden is there to serve them in their time of need.

To Beat Trump, it’s about corn pop!

 

[King Kreole]

Imo, Bernie should also politely mention the Establishment politicians endorsing Biden when he rallies in their respective States.

"I respect Governor X or Senator Y, they done good things for the people of Z. But there is no reason to support a candidate that wants to Cut Medicare. There is no excuse to support someone that cost Z thousands of jobs. I cannot excuse X and Y supporting a candidate that does not want to guarantee every one Healthcare."


Or something like that. Make them think twice before falling in line behind the Establishment

I could see this backfiring heavy and giving more ammo to Biden's argument about Bernie wanting to tear down the party

Bernie needs to be magnanimous now, like he's trying to do with that Obama ad. All this "Me Against the World" shyt ain't working for him right now

 

[OfTheCross]

I could see this backfiring heavy and giving more ammo to Biden's argument about Bernie wanting to tear down the party

Bernie needs to be magnanimous now, like he's trying to do with that Obama ad. All this "Me Against the World" shyt ain't working for him right now

Bruh...what's not magnanimous about what I said...

He gives compliments, respects their opinions, but draws a clear line between him and Joe. And questions why great local politicians aren't backing a clearly better platform for their constituency.

No animosity, just fax.

 

[afterlife2009]

We are so fukked if Biden becomes the nom

Yup. Trump is already running to the left of Biden on social benefits. Trump will cut them as well but Biden doesn't even have the savvy like Trump to lie about it in an effective way. He is already winning and Biden isn't even the nominee yet.

The Dems are bragging that Biden's turnout was up because of suburban voters. As the Democratic electorate becomes overtaken by the affluent suburban professional class, they will become party that defends woke intersectional capitalism(Stacy Abrams) while the GOP is going to keep their stranglehold on social conservatism + hitting the Dems from the left on certain issues. Josh Hawley introduced legislation to protect tenants from landlords. This is happening and brehs in this section do not care.

It's Bernie or bust in the sense that he can stop the realignment and steer the ship. Bernie's politics were formed pre-Reagan, pre-neoliberalism. His political project is grounded around things that the new left did not experience. Like I said in other posts, most of our progressive bench is completely toxic on a national level. Ro Khanna sucks on certain issues but he's probably the only one who I'd take serious in a national election. I'd vote for him

If Bernie loses all future movement for "worker rights" and extracting minor concessions for labor out of capitalism will likely move from the Democrats to the Republicans. Again I don't make the rules, I just report on them

 

[King Kreole]

Bruh...what's not magnanimous about what I said...

He gives compliments, respects their opinions, but draws a clear line between him and Joe. And questions why great local politicians aren't backing a clearly better platform for their constituency.

No animosity, just fax.

I hear you, I just think Bernie is in a very precarious position now when it comes to antagonizing the Democratic party and the voters who identify with it. Going into Michigan and calling out Gretchen Whitmer on stage for wanting to cut healthcare and get rid of people's jobs? That don't sound like it would go over too well for Bernie.

 

[FAH1223]

I hear you, I just think Bernie is in a very precarious position now when it comes to antagonizing the Democratic party and the voters who identify with it. Going into Michigan and calling out Gretchen Whitmer on stage for wanting to cut healthcare and get rid of people's jobs? That don't sound like it would go over too well for Bernie.

Bernie will compliment the governor

 

[the cac mamba]

I hear you, I just think Bernie is in a very precarious position now when it comes to antagonizing the Democratic party and the voters who identify with it. Going into Michigan and calling out Gretchen Whitmer on stage for wanting to cut healthcare and get rid of people's jobs? That don't sound like it would go over too well for Bernie.

there's nothing bernie can do at this point, in his effort to seek the nomination, that won't tear the party apart farther for what's sure to be a failed bid for the nomination he's attacking joe biden, who's our eventual nominee. it's just not helping anything

i wish they would just come to some kind of an agreement where bernie is the nominee if biden doesnt make it to november

 

[FAH1223]