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He needs some blowout wins or else he's never going to catch up. At this point Biden is clearly the front runner.
He needs to as a tweet I posted, go to Puerto Rico and attempt to sweep those 51 delegates. The Mayor of San Juan is a campaign co chair! Plus AOC is with you.

That plus California’s late delegate allocation plus wins in the Midwest, West, and Acela primary are the only real paths

I just feel like all the door knocking ain’t doing shid in these bigger states now. You need to be on cable and local media markets nonstop. The ad buys are great. Surrogates on TV is what needs to happen. You need to convert some of the old people. A slice of them is all you need
 

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Seriously breh, Bernie needs you as an advisor. I shyt you not.

Social media is an echo chamber, if Bernie wants to get his message out to older voters he needs earned media.

He also needs to appreciate that being humble and showing humility are two different things. Black people have been through struggles, and they identify with humility. Going to a black church, softening you tone and getting your message across to black people isn't something to be scorned, it's a part of the process.
I think he should have been in SC more often and putting up bigger ad buys and basically trying to prevent Clyburn from endorsing. The relationship ship building with establishment figures is the problem in the south more than anything. In Nevada, Harry Reid didn’t endorse which was huge.

I really thought he could get 30% of the black vote in the south.
 

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I think he should have been in SC more often and putting up bigger ad buys and basically trying to prevent Clyburn from endorsing. The relationship ship building with establishment figures is the problem in the south more than anything. In Nevada, Harry Reid didn’t endorse which was huge.

I really thought he could get 30% of the black vote in the south.
I mean I don't disagree with the relationship building but Clyburn has gotten over a million in pharma money since 2010. Biden was always going to get the Clyburn endorsement imo.

They weren't gonna let Bernie have a runaway train. I think Harry Reid saw the internal polling and knew there was no chance he could save Biden in a caucus. I just don't agree with some of discourse around black voters in the south. You really have to be connected to the party so those community figures can drive turnout. Bernie got the endorsement of the Clark County Black Caucus in Nevada and only lost the black vote there to Biden 35-to-27, it's not like he isn't trying.

lol every state is going to be a war.

Iowa: the stupid app and delegate fukkery
New Hampshire: Mayor Pete
Nevada: Harry Reid, Culinary and the casinos
South Carolina: James Clyburn and the Congressional Black Caucus are gonna try to save Joe Biden's candidacy.
 

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I mean I don't disagree with the relationship building but Clyburn has gotten over a million in pharma money since 2010. Biden was always going to get the Clyburn endorsement imo.

They weren't gonna let Bernie have a runaway train. I think Harry Reid saw the internal polling and knew there was no chance he could save Biden in a caucus. I just don't agree with some of discourse around black voters in the south. You really have to be connected to the party so those community figures can drive turnout. Bernie got the endorsement of the Clark County Black Caucus in Nevada and only lost the black vote there to Biden 35-to-27, it's not like he isn't trying.

I guess it just might be too much. The former VP of the first black POTUS would always have a lock...

If Bernie collapses next week, I wonder if he really goes until June. Maybe only till May? :francis:
 

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I guess it just might be too much. The former VP of the first black POTUS would always have a lock...

If Bernie collapses next week, I wonder if he really goes until June. Maybe only till May? :francis:
Biden is lucky there’s no debate before these next primaries. Yeah idk what he’s gonna do cause there will be more pressure to get out if we don’t do well next week

We were always gonna get killed in Florida and Georgia but it’s gonna be bad now. I honestly don’t want to read the online discourse about it from media hacks.

the last three years the electorate has been fed meals of non stop Russia russia, impeachment, were living in fascist state. The electorate is polarized and the 50+ year old base who vote just want Trump out.
 

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The jesus thing may be a hurdle

Not saying its anti semitism for his lack of support there...but some very religious people look at those who dont believe in jesus as the savior like :ld:
Bernie isn’t a personable guy. It’s like how black people didn’t love Kerry. Voters vote based on emotion. Bernie cannot rebrand himself that way but he could’ve gotten charismatic surrogates to vouch. Young people don’t sway old people. Only other old people do.
 

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Bernie isn’t a personable guy. It’s like how black people didn’t love Kerry. Voters vote based on emotion. Bernie cannot rebrand himself that way but he could’ve gotten charismatic surrogates to vouch. Young people don’t sway old people. Only other old people do.

Yeah man i hear you

I dont know

Can cornel west do something? Hes almost too off brand though

I really just cant wrap my head around how few allies bernie made since the last go around

Its just political suicide. No one would have called him a sell out because hes sticking to his values. At minimum, he just didnt have to go all out me against the world with these people and he would be in a much stronger position

I have to pin it as being stubborn. Theres no way that he didnt understand the type of party loyalty people have after being in Washington this long. "Caucusing with democrats" isnt good enough for these people. If he took the "D" tag for his run last time and kept it for this time thats a minimum 3-5% boost.

Its honestly infuriating that his campaign faltered like this
 

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Its honestly infuriating that his campaign faltered like this
There were mistakes but the campaign post-heart attack was honestly pretty strong and you have to factor in Warren's presence in the race competing for the 2016 very liberal vote + institutional disadvantages. I just don't totally agree with the they faltered stuff. They had a good play. The strategy was to just survive South Carolina and make a big delegate play in California and Texas with the centrists clustered. The race would be over by now if it had worked -- that's why he didn't have any state offices after Super Tuesday in places like Michigan

Obama and the establishment clearly knew this and made a last minute chess move to cut into our delegate margin by getting everyone to drop but what happened next they couldn't have imagined in their wildest dreams -- Biden somehow won MA, MN and ME. They fully expected Bernie to come out with seven states won and a 100-150 delegate lead. The Democrats and mainstream press have never been this competent. This could be another chapter in Manufacturing Consent.

How do you prepare for the second place finisher in Iowa and NH dropping out the day before Super Tuesday and endorsing Biden? This has never happened in history. And then you got Amy, Beto, senators and house members endorsing Biden + 70 million in free positive media blitz. I don't blame them for being caught off guard. I'm still shocked at what happened.

We couldn't even get a Barbara Lee endorsement after Nevada, I don't want to hear it from Clyburn about not reaching out. Obama and the DNC clearly clearly had their foot on people's necks.

And on final note, go look at the cities where Warren's superPAC was spending money and where she killed us on the margins in left leaning states like Minnesota and Colorado. There wasn't much crossover in a place like Arkansas. They were spending heavy in Travis County(Austin, Texas) to cut into our very liberal vote. The rest is for the history, we will talk about the 72 hours after South Carolina for the next 50 years :francis:
 
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Too much hindsight blaming of Bernie's campaign in here. Feels like you're blaming the murder victim in a post mortem because he should have known he'd be robbed and killed walking to the store at 2AM. Instead of looking at the plain fact that somebody robbed and murdered him at 2AM.

There is no reaching certain portions of the electorate. No amount of choir singing in some hole in the wall church, schmoozing with certain figureheads, or intimate conversations is going to change that.

They simply have to be outmatched by numbers. Until the yoke of elder voters is finally cast off by a younger generation, this is what we'll be dealing with in national politics.
 
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