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yall really scared of the guy who's administration led to the biggest loss of Democratic power in our government since Eisenhower?? Jesus Christ, Obama coming out against Bernie isn't going to do shyt, he has built a fukking movement of loyal supporters. Look, Obama is probably a cool dude to shoot the shyt with and is probably a great father and family man, but he is a wallstreet banker puppet President.
:heh:Pretend Obama isn’t the most popular Democrat in modern history brehs... and one of the most beloved presidents in recent history.

Bernie supporters really are acolytes.
 

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:heh:Pretend Obama isn’t the most popular Democrat in modern history brehs... and one of the most beloved presidents in recent history.

Bernie supporters really are acolytes.
I voted for Obama twice. I thought he was going to change things. I don’t care how popular or beloved he is, he was a status quo politician in the bankers pocket. Him being articulate and likable doesn’t change anything. Bernie is what I hoped Obama was going to be. Him coming out and fear mongering about Democratic socialism isn’t going to change the minds of any Bernie supporters or potential ones.

edit: @DEAD7 i apologize for insulting you, didn’t really mean it. &edited it out
 

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I voted for Obama twice you fukking idiot. I thought he was going to change things. I don’t care how popular or beloved he is, he was a status quo politician in the bankers pocket. Him being articulate and likable doesn’t change anything. Bernie is what I hoped Obama was going to be. Him coming out and fear mongering about Democratic socialism isn’t going to change the minds of any Bernie supporters or potential ones.
Bernie is potentially what you hoped Obama would be. :ufdup:

The DNC is making it very clear(early) they aren't fukking with Sanders and would prefer another 4 of Trump to Sanders. Question is do you move to an establishment Dem to get rid of Trump, or ride with Bernie and let the rethugs maintain control? :sas2:
 

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Bernie is potentially what you hoped Obama would be. :ufdup:

The DNC is making it very clear(early) they aren't fukking with Sanders and would prefer another 4 of Trump to Sanders. Question is do you move to an establishment Dem to get rid of Trump, or ride with Bernie and let the rethugs maintain control? :sas2:
People are going to disagree with my stance but I will be personally voting for Bernie regardless of who the nominee is. I will write him in just like I did last time. I’m tired of choosing between the lesser of two evils, I’m going to vote for the person I want to be President.
 

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Also my basic point was that Obama’s policies directly led to republicans taking over the senate and the house and our fukking courts, so why the fukk should we care about his thoughts in regards to the direction of the country politically
I think if he comes out in support of Biden and promotes it as a return to Obama era leadership, the other candidates are sunk.
Policy wise, I agree with you about Obama.
 
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Ay breh @wtfyomom this is what I'm talking about with the Warren left/Justice Dems left. They're trying to get Bernie's team to delete their Joe Rogan tweet. This is the same stuff from when they lost their minds about Bernie going on Fox and Warren getting praise for denouncing them. Here's the problem -- all these people in the new left including the Jacobin people hang out in the same bars, write in the same places and go on each others' podcasts so they all fall in line with this hyper polarized idpol. Hardly anyone is pushing back. Just check 'Rogan' on Twitter

I'm not caping for Rogan or Fox but if they make Bernie's team delete a innocuous tweet it's just more proof that they are useless.. This is why I say Bernie's vision is better because he creates a big tent while the new left is gonna only be appealing to upper middle class urbanities on Twitter. This article in Vox explains why white people have become gone nuts on the idpol. stuff White liberals are embracing progressive racial politics and transforming America








Some old posts I made below about the Justice Dems left.

The left thinks electoral politics is kicking somebody out of a group because they were being too problematic or removing Bret Stephens/NYT opinion writers and replacing them with TeenVogue people. Completely useless

I agree somewhat but here's where I disagree. I think we were always headed down a path of hyper polarized liberalism after Hillary but Bernie re-directed course. We are still dealing with the effects of that bipolar primary where the professional left and working class left teamed up vs Hillary. The activist wing split between Bernie/Hillary because Hillary was so awful.

The activist/professional left journalist crowd prefers Lizard Warren, Kamala and Castro. They might be "left" but they're not working class left. They rank an entirely different set of issues than the people who support Sanders. This upper-middle class group of professionals and activists like Working Families Party put Warren's apparent superiority on issues of "race and identity" as the key difference over Bernie and ironically this is something white people generally care about.

When you see these activists say, "talk about trans healthcare!" Talk about black women's healthcare!" Make your campaign centered around this but be sure to not actually propose doing anything about it. Bernie doesn't pander to them and proposes the correct solution that doesn't specifically target their identity which is why you see pushback from hyper polarized white liberals. Here's an article by Yglesias in Vox about it. I don't take him seriously but he can write about it because he isn't in these circles. White liberals are embracing progressive racial politics and transforming America
 

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Ay breh @wtfyomom this is what I'm talking about with the Warren left/Justice Dems left. They're trying to get Bernie's team to delete their Joe Rogan tweet. This is the same stuff from when they lost their minds about Bernie going on Fox and Warren getting praise for denouncing them. Here's the problem -- all these people in the new left including the Jacobin people hang out in the same bars, write in the same places and go on each others' podcasts so they all fall in line with this hyper polarized idpol. Hardly anyone is pushing back. Just check 'Rogan' on Twitter

I'm not caping for Rogan or Fox but if they make Bernie's team delete a innocuous tweet it's just more proof that they are useless.. This is why I say Bernie's vision is better because he creates a big tent while the new left is gonna only be appealing to upper middle class urbanities on Twitter. This article in Vox explains why white people have become gone nuts on the idpol. stuff White liberals are embracing progressive racial politics and transforming America








Some old posts I made below about the Justice Dems left.

Bernie posted Rogan’s endorsement on every platform :russ:
 

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Ay breh @wtfyomom this is what I'm talking about with the Warren left/Justice Dems left. They're trying to get Bernie's team to delete their Joe Rogan tweet. This is the same stuff from when they lost their minds about Bernie going on Fox and Warren getting praise for denouncing them. Here's the problem -- all these people in the new left including the Jacobin people hang out in the same bars, write in the same places and go on each others' podcasts so they all fall in line with this hyper polarized idpol. Hardly anyone is pushing back. Just check 'Rogan' on Twitter

I'm not caping for Rogan or Fox but if they make Bernie's team delete a innocuous tweet it's just more proof that they are useless.. This is why I say Bernie's vision is better because he creates a big tent while the new left is gonna only be appealing to upper middle class urbanities on Twitter. This article in Vox explains why white people have become gone nuts on the idpol. stuff White liberals are embracing progressive racial politics and transforming America








Some old posts I made below about the Justice Dems left.

It’s so self defeating , fukkin white liberals
 

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@Skyfall even that dude that made the “ rising up” video debunking the Bernie bro myth, which I still think is the best ad ever made for Bernie so far official or unofficial , had to be excommunicated cause these white libs were mad 5 years ago he made some video of mlk with spliced together speeches and made it sound like he was talking about sex, big deal. Sick of this woke scolding
 
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