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Imagine Jews begging Nazi's to "bring justice" without their economic base and foreign allies like how we do in ameriKKKa. They'd still be stuck in Germany

They never had too "beg". Hell, they didn't even liberate themselves..... The U.N. got involved and brought an end to it and served justice, not Jewish victims
 

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They never had too "beg". Hell, they didn't even liberate themselves..... The U.N. got involved and brought an end to it and served justice, not Jewish victims

So how do you think african people will be liberated? Because according to Yvette we are helpless people who need white daddy to fix our problem and self determination is impossible. It's possible for all the people who leech off our community (with black dollars in many cases) to empower themselves but we CAN'T do it.
 

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Boyce is a super simp

I stopped messing with Boyce back when that shyt went down between him and Umar Johnson, over a disrespectful nobody female that Boyce was giving a platform

I remember that. Boyce tries to give everyone a chance but that chick was so bogus. She was in the comments speaking condescendingly to anyone who disagreed with her. I'm still trying to figure out what school can be built with $400K...a school is minimally $5MM. I haven't seen her on Boyce's channel in a while though. Good riddens.

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Nobody is denying the government is what got white folks where they're at today. What I'm saying is ridiculous is that you all expect that SAME GOVERNMENT ran by the descendants of the SAME WHITE SUPREMACISTS to all of a sudden have a come to Jesus moment and help us... [B][I]@Poitier[/I][/B] thread in the root speaking on our liberation is probably the most thorough and realistic plan we could follow compare to the typical "group economics" and "group economics won't work" arguments that keeps our people stuck in the mud arguing on social media...

Imagine Jews begging Nazi's to "bring justice" without their economic base and foreign allies like how we do in ameriKKKa. They'd still be stuck in Germany
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Link for Poitier's thread please. Also, great analogy with the Jews comparison.

Yes. Government redistributes wealth, and land. It's a big component of the capitalist political economy.

The bootstraps theory is American propoganda

And it's worked beautifully

Yes, government needs to redistribute wealth. But we need to do more than survive (i.e. living foot to mouth) in the meantime.

More than that, if we wait (until after reparations) to enhance our financial literacy (beyond survival), then the mainstream will be there waiting to eat off of us...as they do now. Meaning, their businesses & creations will be waiting to take all the dollars from this reparations package. We need to be financially literate and ready before reparations so we can circulate the dollars in the black community for as long as possible!
 

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Crazy thing is many of these so called problack folks or conscious folks I like. But they stay and I mean stay beefing on social media.

How the hell you gonna fight white supremacy and yall asses can't stop beefing and put your differences aside.

That goes for these kats, boyce, tariq, umar and etc.
The answer to bold is because there is no "community" in the way people try to make it seem. That's the same for every race too. You got people you agree with and those you disagree with. When you disagree you going to argue, beef, etc with each other. Don't mean you necessarily want them to fail either but I don't we will ever have any black monolithic plan we all can agree with. Hell even on here you can see it.
 
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Nobody is denying the government is what got white folks where they're at today. What I'm saying is ridiculous is that you all expect that SAME GOVERNMENT ran by the descendants of the SAME WHITE SUPREMACISTS to all of a sudden have a come to Jesus moment and help us.
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Y'all keep confusing what's really going on out here. NOBODY is saying we don't "deserve" what we're owed. Of course we deserve economic justice. But if we're going to REALISTICALLY receive this justice we need to build ourselves up to actually be able to throw our influence around. We need to make real allies with the diaspora if we ever actually plan on challenging this system. @Poitier thread in the root speaking on our liberation is probably the most thorough and realistic plan we could follow compare to the typical "group economics" and "group economics won't work" arguments that keeps our people stuck in the mud arguing on social media...

Imagine Jews begging Nazi's to "bring justice" without their economic base and foreign allies like how we do in ameriKKKa. They'd still be stuck in Germany
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Jews had America and then Israel to run to as they had extremely successful people in America already and America wasn't a religious system but a racial one and they are of the white race. Black folks don't have none of this at the disposal. Black people face a unique situation where none of this would be effective for the collective.
 

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You telling me Facebook, Microsoft, etc are all created by the government? Hell Bad Boy, fubu, Tyler Perry, Oprah, were also created by the government? I'm sure the government can do more but I think for the most part people create their own wealth or lack of it. Its just easier to talk about what other forces you have no control over aren't doing instead of yourself and more people will listen to that also. Self responsibility isn't something most wanna deal with.
Yvette said that individually you can tell Blacks this but to the collective is being dishonest. Y'all love thinking individualism but once whites on SAME stop fukking with you, we all gonna be screwed. This is the part you guys are missing. Yvette speaks on telling individual to practice a group method is impossible without government and she gave all of the reasons.

It's the government approving globalization which destroy many Black communities in the 70s by letting factories leave inner cities for other non Black countries.
 

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Yvette said that individually you can tell Blacks this but to the collective is being dishonest. Y'all love thinking individualism but once whites on SAME stop fukking with you, we all gonna be screwed. This is the part you guys are missing. Yvette speaks on telling individual to practice a group method is impossible without government and she gave all of the reasons.

It's the government approving globalization which destroy many Black communities in the 70s by letting factories leave inner cities for other non Black countries.
No dishonest nothing. The point is why tell people to base their making it on help from non family/friends who are most likely to help? Outside of that y'all cats dreaming thinking folks really out here helping like that. We are selfish being so yeah we all love individualism even you online cats that say otherwise. Well her reasons don't work but if that's what you want to do to have someo one to blame for lack of success do that my man. I can't control your views but I do know I disagree with her and anybody on her vibe on this issue.
 

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Jews had America and then Israel to run to as they had extremely successful people in America already and America wasn't a religious system but a racial one and they are of the white race. Black folks don't have none of this at the disposal. Black people face a unique situation where none of this would be effective for the collective.

That's my point. They built up allies outside of the nazi system. We need to do the same while also building ourselves up so we can actually leverage our economy with public policy. Everybody talking about "duh government need to help us" is like the Jews asking a Nazi to fix their shyt. Ass backwards, silly and it won't happen. And even IF white folks used their government to "fix" the situation, you know it's gonna come with MANY strings attached.

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So how do you think african people will be liberated? Because according to Yvette we are helpless people who need white daddy to fix our problem and self determination is impossible. It's possible for all the people who leech off our community (with black dollars in many cases) to empower themselves but we CAN'T do it.

WTF is this White Daddy shyt...

OMG... I wish nikkas would stop talking like fukking idiots...

nikka you pay fukking taxes to the government....

You asking your fukking government which exists to serve you...is not asking White daddy.

How the fukk you think Black people in the USA got free from slavery?

It was the fukking government. If the government said after the Civil War...slavery is back on now...nikkas would've been slaves.

How do you think Black people got citizenship in the USA...the Government.

Who keeps the fukking economy running in this bytch...the Government...

Who gave Koreans the monopoly on the Black haircare market...the Government...

Why Do Koreans Own The Black Beauty Supply Business?
The wig business was doing so well, especially amongst African-American consumers that the Korean Wig Merchants pushed to corner the market. “In 1965, the Korean Wig merchants joined together and convinced the Korean government to outlaw the export of raw hair,” said Aron Ranen, a filmmaker who has documented the marginalization of African-American entrepreneurs in the hair care industry in the film Black Hair. “[This ban] made it so that one can only buy the pre-made wigs and extensions.” In other words, Korean hair could only be manufactured in Korea. “Six months later, the United States government created a ban on any wig that contains hair from China,” effectively putting South Korea in prime position to exploit the market.





The government is the most powerful institution in this country (any country really) and it would fukking stupid not to demand it does shyt for descendants of slaves...

Now nikkas that don't wanna make that demand are politically useless and dead and they need to die off and not claim that they speak for Black people...because they are what White conservatives love...

If nikkas don't wanna live with a government that does shyt for the people it rules over...yall nikkas can go live in the wilderness or some shyt.

Build your little fort or whatever yall want...

But leave us reasonable and sensible and intelligent Black people that actually understand politics and the role of a 1st World government the fukk alone...yall go take yall conservative minded asses to the fukking woods and build yall shyt...

I wanna live in a country that serves its citizens.

Yall nikkas are fukking cowards...

"But but but...the government isn't gonna do anything for us..."

When the only reason why we ain't slaves right now is because the government banned slavery.
 
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WTF is this White Daddy shyt...

OMG... I wish nikkas would stop talking like fukking idiots...

nikka you pay fukking taxes to the government....

You asking your fukking government which exists to serve you...is not asking White daddy.

How the fukk you think Black people in the USA got free from slavery?

It was the fukking government. If the government said after the Civil War...slavery is back on now...nikkas would've been slaves.

How do you think Black people got citizenship in the USA...the Government.

Who keeps the fukking economy running in this bytch...the Government...

Who gave Koreans the monopoly on the Black haircare market...the Government...

Why Do Koreans Own The Black Beauty Supply Business?
The wig business was doing so well, especially amongst African-American consumers that the Korean Wig Merchants pushed to corner the market. “In 1965, the Korean Wig merchants joined together and convinced the Korean government to outlaw the export of raw hair,” said Aron Ranen, a filmmaker who has documented the marginalization of African-American entrepreneurs in the hair care industry in the film Black Hair. “[This ban] made it so that one can only buy the pre-made wigs and extensions.” In other words, Korean hair could only be manufactured in Korea. “Six months later, the United States government created a ban on any wig that contains hair from China,” effectively putting South Korea in prime position to exploit the market.





The government is the most powerful institution in this country (any country really) and it would fukking stupid not to demand it does shyt for descendants of slaves...

Now nikkas that don't wanna make that demand are politically useless and dead and they need to die off and not claim that they speak for Black people...because they are what White conservatives love...

If nikkas don't wanna live with a government that does shyt for the people it rules over...yall nikkas can go live in the wilderness or some shyt.

Build your little fort or whatever yall want...

But leave us reasonable and sensible and intelligent Black people that actually understand politics and the role of a 1st World government the fukk alone...yall go take yall conservative minded asses to the fukking woods and build yall shyt...

I wanna live in a country that serves its citizens.

Yall nikkas are fukking cowards...

"But but but...the government isn't gonna do anything for us..."

When the only reason why we ain't slaves right now is because the government banned slavery.

Look at the example you used. "Korean merchants joined together " merchants meaning business owners. How did they gather enough influence to lobby the government, I'll give you a hint, it probably wasn't marching and slick hashtag campaigns...

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That's my point. They built up allies outside of the nazi system. We need to do the same while also building ourselves up so we can actually leverage our economy with public policy. Everybody talking about "duh government need to help us" is like the Jews asking a Nazi to fix their shyt. Ass backwards, silly and it won't happen. And even IF white folks used their government to "fix" the situation, you know it's gonna come with MANY strings attached.

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Black people have nothing. We are still systematic slaves. This is the part you don't get, we still aren't free.
 

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Look at the example you used. "Korean merchants joined together " merchants meaning business owners. How did they gather enough influence to lobby the government, I'll give you a hint, it probably wasn't marching and slick hashtag campaigns...

tenor.gif

$$$$$$$

No it was because the USA wanted to piss off the Chinese because they are communist and helped started the Korean War, so they banned the Chinese.

Koreans asked their government...to ban hair from being imported anywhere else. Which gave Koreans a monopoly in their own country, which in turn gave them a monopoly in the USA.

Korean government did what was best for Korea. USA government did what was best for USA and in turn what was best for their ally, South Korea.

Governments install protectionist policies all the time when they are a neophyte economy which Korea was at that time. Governments punish opposing governments all the time economically.

This was just a synergy of interests...

Korean merchants didn't hold that much sway.
 
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