Official 2023-2024 Detroit Lions Thread.

Piff Perkins

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Starting to think about this too. Maybe Campbell is the guy and a fully retooled defense and filling a couple holes on offense will fix everything next season. But if not you risk wasting another season/y year of all of these guy's rookie deals, plus your rookie QB will be learning his second new offense in two years.

Lions have a huge opportunity here. Cap space and a lot of draft depth to completely remake this roster...and a GM who has a proven ability to find talent. I'm not calling for Campbell to be fired but if he's simply not the guy...you really take a risk of delaying what could be a great rebuild.
 

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Classic lion fan overthinking a mediocre transaction we lost on. Even if u do this trade, the Vikings? The Vikings?
 

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Totally agree. Who would you take for our QB in the draft?
Stroud. He has an NFL body, and when I watch his highlights I see him throw with anticipation and in tight windows. I'm sure there are highlights of young doing the same, but I can't find them.
 

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Bryce Young. Zero interest in Will Levis and zero interest in OSU system QBs (Stroud).
I worry about Bryce Young size. I don't like osu QBs but Stroud would step into a roster loaded with offensive talent.

I would pull the trigger on Stroud
Stroud. He has an NFL body, and when I watch his highlights I see him throw with anticipation and in tight windows. I'm sure there are highlights of young doing the same, but I can't find them.

Yeah I agree 100 Bryce is Small and Stroud has the size and arm talent but Bryce and Jameson Williams chemistry would be crazy being that they play in Alabama together
 

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Classic lion fan overthinking a mediocre transaction we lost on. Even if u do this trade, the Vikings? The Vikings?

Is Hock worth top 5 TE money? Are you willing to give him 15 million a year and 30 million signing bonus. I'd rather him not be a Viking but it's obvious our front offense doesn't value the position. I wouldn't be surprised if he blows up on a team that might feature him. He now has a top 5 WR as a running mate. I think his blocking gets exposed though.
 

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Is Hock worth top 5 TE money? Are you willing to give him 15 million a year and 30 million signing bonus. I'd rather him not be a Viking but it's obvious our front offense doesn't value the position. I wouldn't be surprised if he blows up on a team that might feature him. He now has a top 5 WR as a running mate. I think his blocking gets exposed though.
The simplest breakdown for Hock is this:

Was there ever a time he caught a pass and was one-on-one with a defender and you thought he was gonna break it?

Great TEs can't be taken down by one guy. Hock has always gone down easily, plus he doesn't have blinding speed.
 

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Yea Hock is worth top 5 TE money,which is why he’ll get it .. If you’re not willing to spend you’re not going to acquire or keep talent .

Hock isn’t Andrews or Kittle level but with Justin Jefferson stretching the field and other competent offensive skill players around him he’ll ball out .

With that being said I’m not mad at getting a 2nd for him.
 

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Yeah I agree 100 Bryce is Small and Stroud has the size and arm talent but Bryce and Jameson Williams chemistry would be crazy being that they play in Alabama together
I wouldn’t be upset if we took young cuz you’re right, they had great chemistry but you asked my preference. I think they’ll both find success but in different ways
 

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This is just stupid. The nfl should take the team over. And there's really people debating this team and the roster despite their inability to even be mediocre for a sustained period.

Give the numbers of a contract you’d give Hock
 
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